Indiana University 2014 Recruitment

[Mom64]

Originally Posted by blueiumom

I'm hearing this same thing from my daughter. This is a girl with very close ties to the house who apparently did not make grades for formal rush. Keep in mind all the chapters at IU have grade requirements for formal rush that are not only higher than IU's Panhellenic requirements but also much higher than the national chapters' requirements. I have no idea whether this is somehow allowed within the rules, but I can see how it might technically be just fine if her grades met the Panhellenic and national chapter standards. I know it's hard to stomach, (it definitely caused a stir with my daughter just as she is starting to heal from all this) but I get it. I think it was a unique situation.

This whole thing has been such a fiasco, I'm just not willing to get all bent out of shape about 1 or 2 girls.....

My daughter heard the same story. She and I just want this whole "fiasco" to be over.

I do wonder why have standards, if there are ways to "hold spots" (daughter's words) for girls who do not meet these standards.

I do not know all the rules but my daughter is aware of two girls approached yesterday by the same house about accepting a bid to a house and they did. Are these consider snap bids? If it's not, I thought informal rush was not beginning until after the new colonization.

For those who have no compassion for girls who didn't maximize their bids or withdrew because they didn't play according to the rules, please note that it doesn't seem all the chapters are either.

It may happen all over but at IU the competition is fierce enough among the girls meeting grade standards, going through formal rush and playing by the rules.

[ForeverRoses]

Originally Posted by Mom64

My daughter heard the same story. She and I just want this whole "fiasco" to be over.

I do wonder why have standards, if there are ways to "hold spots" (daughter's words) for girls who do not meet these standards.

I do not know all the rules but my daughter is aware of two girls approached yesterday by the same house about accepting a bid to a house and they did. Are these consider snap bids? If it's not, I thought informal rush was not beginning until after the new colonization.

For those who have no compassion for girls who didn't maximize their bids or withdrew because they didn't play according to the rules, please note that it doesn't seem all the chapters are either.

It may happen all over but at IU the competition is fierce enough among the girls meeting grade standards, going through formal rush and playing by the rules.

Yes those are snap bids. Does your daughter know if those two girls attended pref at that house?

Contrary to what has been posted regarding snap bids-- last year there was a requirement that snap bids only go to women that attended preference ( at least for the first week or two following recruitment). The was set by Panhellenic.

[Mom64]

Originally Posted by ForeverRoses

Yes those are snap bids. Does your daughter know if those two girls attended pref at that house?

Contrary to what has been posted regarding snap bids-- last year there was a requirement that snap bids only go to women that attended preference ( at least for the first week or two following recruitment). The was set by Panhellenic.

I do not believe that one of the girls did and unsure of the other. But if you had to have attended preference, how did a girl get a bid who never participated in formal recruitment?

These rules seem arbitrary at best and maybe that's what it's supposed to be. I find the saying "mutual selection" to be highly overstated. PNMs really have no say in the selection process.

[ForeverRoses]

Originally Posted by Mom64

I do not believe that one of the girls did and unsure of the other. But if you had to have attended preference, how did a girl get a bid who never participated in formal recruitment?

These rules seem arbitrary at best and maybe that's what it's supposed to be. I find the saying "mutual selection" to be highly overstated. PNMs really have no say in the selection process.

That is what I was trying to figure out. One thing about Panhellenic at IU is that it is completely student run. The Greek life office staff try and let the students run it as much as possible. Unfortunately this means they are not always consistent from year to year. Not all of the rules and regulations always clear ( so I was under the impression that the rule about having to attend preference was still in effect).

As for the girl that had three pref parties and dropped? Honestly I would rather she dropped then than wait and drop on bid day or after. At least this way she didn't take a bid and drop-- because even if that spot was filled with a snap bid later, the snap bid didn't get to experience bid night and probably felt the sting of no bid after pref.

[cinder1965]

As for the girl that had three pref parties and dropped? Honestly I would rather she dropped then than wait and drop on bid day or after. At least this way she didn't take a bid and drop-- because even if that spot was filled with a snap bid later, the snap bid didn't get to experience bid night and probably felt the sting of no bid after pref.[/QUOTE]

Agree, but then the girl and her mother have little room to complain about how unfair the IU system was to her.....

[KDCat]

Originally Posted by Mom64

My daughter heard the same story. She and I just want this whole "fiasco" to be over.

I do wonder why have standards, if there are ways to "hold spots" (daughter's words) for girls who do not meet these standards.

I do not know all the rules but my daughter is aware of two girls approached yesterday by the same house about accepting a bid to a house and they did. Are these consider snap bids? If it's not, I thought informal rush was not beginning until after the new colonization.

For those who have no compassion for girls who didn't maximize their bids or withdrew because they didn't play according to the rules, please note that it doesn't seem all the chapters are either.

It may happen all over but at IU the competition is fierce enough among the girls meeting grade standards, going through formal rush and playing by the rules.

You have no information beyond rumors that chapters have broken any rules. Rumors fly like crazy during recruitment and afterwards and 99% of them are wrong.

Snap bids are within the rules. They are designed to let chapters pick up women who rushed and were not given bids. They are designed to help women like your daughter.

I know you and your daughter are feeling raw. I'm sorry that IU is so messed up. The chapters aren't cheating, though.