Indiana University 2014 Recruitment

[silver_blue]

Originally Posted by KDCat

Sure. But Indiana is only placing about 60% of the women who start the process, and IU is dropping a bunch of them after pref. University of Illinois places around 97% of the women who go all the way through and don't drop out. There was a really great webpage that listed how many women were dropped at U of I, but the school deleted it. Very few women at University of Illinois are dropped completely. Quite a few quit because they don't like their options, though, but that is on them.

I think guaranteeing a bid to women who maximize their options and are invited to pref would take a lot of heat off IU sororities.

If the IU sororities are worried about spaced, space could be created by asking for volunteers to live-out (seniors first, then juniors). Not everybody loves living in a house. I loved being in a sorority. I loved hanging out at the house. I didn't really love living in the house. If there aren't enough volunteers, the House Corp. or the chapter can prioritize who lives in. There are lots of ways to do that. Ie. all elected officers have to live in. After that, each pledge class chooses to live in or out based on initiation order or GPA or a random draw. It's honestly not a big deal.

THANK YOU. I feel like half the people commenting on this thread know nothing about the peculiarities of IU. You can question how many girls maximized their options or how many suicided because that's an issue re: placement AT EVERY SCHOOL.

However, no other school places only 60% of women going through. That is madness and completely unpanhellenic. My chapter house slept around 45 women and was filled by elected officers and then whoever wanted to live in the house (usually out of the sophomore pledge class). Just because only 45 women actually slept there does not mean every other member wasn't welcome at the house whenever for lunch, dinner, and hanging out. I wish IU sorority members could get off their elitist high horses and realize that their way is wrong.

[Sigmapsimom]

Originally Posted by silver_blue

THANK YOU. I feel like half the people commenting on this thread know nothing about the peculiarities of IU. You can question how many girls maximized their options or how many suicided because that's an issue re: placement AT EVERY SCHOOL.

However, no other school places only 60% of women going through. That is madness and completely unpanhellenic. My chapter house slept around 45 women and was filled by elected officers and then whoever wanted to live in the house (usually out of the sophomore pledge class). Just because only 45 women actually slept there does not mean every other member wasn't welcome at the house whenever for lunch, dinner, and hanging out. I wish IU sorority members could get off their elitist high horses and realize that their way is wrong.

Truth. Thank you for posting this. Even if EVERY PNM at IU maximized their options, 40% still would not be placed. That's insane. And most of these girls are lovely and don't have personalities of " wet mops" as one poster put it. You have to have a decent amount of confidence even to sign up for rush at IU.

[33girl]

I think the thing is that women who hate the idea of living in the house are for the most part not rushing at IU to begin with because they know it's a requirement. Just like women who would not want to be in a large chapter wouldn't rush at an SEC school.

[silver_blue]

Originally Posted by 33girl

I think the thing is that women who hate the idea of living in the house are for the most part not rushing at IU to begin with because they know it's a requirement. Just like women who would not want to be in a large chapter wouldn't rush at an SEC school.

I agree to a point, though IU is such a wonderful school especially if you're in state. Purdue and IU don't have a ton of overlap in programs offered (this is on purpose, so the two schools don't compete in the same areas), so I think not attending IU is probably good advice if you don't want to live in a house, but what if you're a music major from Indianapolis? Seems kind of ridiculous to not attend IU and if you want to go greek you're screwed? The system needs to be fixed.

[33girl]

Devil's advocate post.

Say IU did change to quota/total, made everyone's house capacity the same and Greek life in general became less elite? Would there still be as many women rushing?

Everyone is yelling that the sorority women like their elite status and that's why they don't want to change. I would say that there are women out there rushing only to gain that status and if it diminished, so would their interest.

And if you're reading this thread don't get your panties in a bunch thinking I'm talking about you or your daughter because I'm not...unless, of course, I am, and that's something you have to be honest with yourself about.

[stbemtpynest]

Originally Posted by 33girl

Devil's advocate post.

Say IU did change to quota/total, made everyone's house capacity the same and Greek life in general became less elite? Would there still be as many women rushing?

Everyone is yelling that the sorority women like their elite status and that's why they don't want to change. I would say that there are women out there rushing only to gain that status and if it diminished, so would their interest.

Devil's advocate response . And I am not trying to offend anyone or say one side is right or wrong...

So what if Greek life at IU became less elite? So what if fewer women rushed? Is that really a bad thing?

[Sigmapsimom]

Originally Posted by 33girl

Devil's advocate post.

Say IU did change to quota/total, made everyone's house capacity the same and Greek life in general became less elite? Would there still be as many women rushing?

Everyone is yelling that the sorority women like their elite status and that's why they don't want to change. I would say that there are women out there rushing only to gain that status and if it diminished, so would their interest.

And if you're reading this thread don't get your panties in a bunch thinking I'm talking about you or your daughter because I'm not...unless, of course, I am, and that's something you have to be honest with yourself about.

I doubt it. There would still be a social pecking order of chapters. Some will always be considered more elite than others, just like at OU or Alabama.

[silver_blue]

Originally Posted by 33girl

Devil's advocate post.

Say IU did change to quota/total, made everyone's house capacity the same and Greek life in general became less elite? Would there still be as many women rushing?

Everyone is yelling that the sorority women like their elite status and that's why they don't want to change. I would say that there are women out there rushing only to gain that status and if it diminished, so would their interest.

And if you're reading this thread don't get your panties in a bunch thinking I'm talking about you or your daughter because I'm not...unless, of course, I am, and that's something you have to be honest with yourself about.

I honestly don't think it would diminish the girls going through. Look at Alabama and Ole Miss where being greek is still seen as incredibly elite: they don't all live in the houses and interest in their recruitments is growing, not waning.

If you want to compare to a more similar school, I think Illinois is a really good comparison to IU and they're doing just fine. I think the elitist mindset kicks in once PNMs become new members, but I don't think it's as much of a thing before they actually join.