Indiana University 2014 Recruitment

[irishpipes]

Originally Posted by Mom64

It is hazing just look at IU's rush schedule and this year's revised one, the hours in a day are unacceptable. Please do not say the actives had the same schedule. They were in the warmth of their houses, not traveling through freezing temps with high anxiety levels.

For those who make it through, I guess it's acceptable. For the many young women (and there are MANY) who did not get a bid having to go to classes today and seeing the many bid shirts today is just another hit to their self-esteem.

I appreciate your pain, but those active are awake most of the night voting and setting up for the next round parties while the PNMs are sleeping. There are difficulties to both sides.

[Mom64]

Originally Posted by irishpipes

I appreciate your pain, but those active are awake most of the night voting and setting up for the next round parties while the PNMs are sleeping. There are difficulties to both sides.

Sorry, can't feel that badly for that. Lack of sleep is one thing, the high possibility of rejection is another. The actives can catch up on their sleep when rush is over, the PNMs without a bid have no recourse.

If the actives/chapters don't like the schedule, they have a voice and the possibility to change it.

[AZTheta]

Originally Posted by Mom64

Sorry, can't feel that badly for that. Lack of sleep is one thing, the high possibility of rejection is another. The actives can catch up on their sleep when rush is over, the PNMs without a bid have no recourse.

If the actives/chapters don't like the schedule, they have a voice and the possibility to change it.

With all due respect and kindness of intent - the actives are also feeling the pain of rejection. Believe me, if you have ever sat through membership selection (as most of the alumnae posting here have) you understand exactly what I'm talking about.

As for transfers - another additional factor is this: the transfer may not fit with the chapter! Yes we went through the same initiation, but the culture at MIT or Yale is quite different from that at Arizona. The student populations vary from campus to campus.

Here's my solution: IU goes to a quota/total system. ALL chapters must bid to total or risk consequences from their headquarters. Poof! Stigma is gone e.g. ABC took 57, EFG took 25 - so EFG is much more selective - NOT ANY MORE. What a concept, huh?

And I agree with AOII Angel's comment.

[silver_blue]

Originally Posted by AZTheta

Here's my solution: IU goes to a quota/total system. ALL chapters must bid to total or risk consequences from their headquarters. Poof! Stigma is gone e.g. ABC took 57, EFG took 25 - so EFG is much more selective - NOT ANY MORE. What a concept, huh?

Everyone send this to PHA, I don't understand why IU actives can't get this through their heads.

I went to an SEC school and our recruitment is NOTHING compared to IU.

[ForeverRoses]

Originally Posted by irishpipes

I appreciate your pain, but those active are awake most of the night voting and setting up for the next round parties while the PNMs are sleeping. There are difficulties to both sides.

I calculated that I slept for 12 hours total Friday-Monday. And I completely agree on difficulties on both sides. 8am-10pm is brutal for EVERYONE . And don't think it was a tear free weekend for the actives!

[ZTAIUalum]

I know it is stressful on both sides, but I do know that ZTA (my alum at IU) accepted a much larger pledge class this year due to pressures from ZTA headquarters. This is forcing some girls to live out their senior year *which has not happened in years! So there are houses adapting to the changes. IU Rush is so stressful and the cross cuts that happen are very hard for everyone. At other schools (southern) if you agree to take one of your pref night houses (any of them) you are guaranteed a house...so at least you get one of the 3 or 2 or 1 you go to. But I do think much is lost living out of the house. Some of my best years were getting to know everyone in the house! There is no rhyme or reason on who gets in...I tried to pull my boyfriends sister in and for some reason she didn't get in...again no rhyme or reason she was being totally looked out for, but in the end she got into a great house and loved that house too. There is a house for everyone, but the girls have to be willing to accept whatever they get and not go in only wanting whatever house. this year was difficult as they cut a party due to the snow. It all stinks..but try again...my best friend did and got in sophomore year...to my house

[silver_blue]

Originally Posted by ZTAIUalum

There is a house for everyone, but the girls have to be willing to accept whatever they get and not go in only wanting whatever house.

Sorry, but no. This is the whole point, did you read these last few pages? There IS NOT space for everyone. Do they not teach math at IU anymore?

[ZTAIUalum]

Originally Posted by silver_blue

Sorry, but no. This is the whole point, did you read these last few pages? There IS NOT space for everyone. Do they not teach math at IU anymore?

You know, I had so many friends at IU, many not in a house, and believe it or not they are very happy girls. We invited them to a lot of our sorority functions, and I love them like a sister and roomed with some of them post IU. I don't understand your obvious anger. I was merely making a statement, but there are MANY girls that suicide, or put down only one...

What I am saying is Greek isn't for everyone and many who didn't go Greek are still happy wonderful people...and yes, I took math...no need for the obvious snarky comment.

[silver_blue]

Originally Posted by ZTAIUalum

You know, I had so many friends at IU, many not in a house, and believe it or not they are very happy girls. We invited them to a lot of our sorority functions, and I love them like a sister and roomed with some of them post IU. I don't understand your obvious anger. I was merely making a statement, but there are MANY girls that suicide, or put down only one...

What I am saying is Greek isn't for everyone and many who didn't go Greek are still happy wonderful people...and yes, I took math...no need for the obvious snarky comment.

I'm being snarky because it's quite clear you haven't read (or if you have, cannot seem to understand) the many pages in the last few days discussing IU's serious problem where HUNDREDS of girls who maximize their options end up bidless.

You can say that there are opportunities outside greek like at IU all you want, but considering you were a member of a (highly coveted actually) sorority there, I think you have no idea what you're talking about. Clubs, etc. are great and a good idea for any college student regardless of greek affiliation, but speaking as someone who was on the outside looking in at IU until I transferred, my joining clubs was no replacement for the sorority experience I saw my roommate and other dorm friends having.

Sure, there are many girls that suicide or are too good for certain chapters, but that's a problem at every single school with greek life, nobody on greek chat will dispute that. The problems we're discussing in this thread are IU specific because of your antiquated, bizarre, and cruel bed quota system.