Indiana University 2014 Recruitment

[kchaptergphib]

My own thoughts, after being a membership advisor at 2 other schools and attending a third; take them with as much salt as you will:

I really want to take everyone from the (housed) house corp boards at IU and shake them. Seriously, alumnae, make some better decisions for the health of the entire system! There is no good reason to set quotas so artificially low. None. You can figure out a way to keep your physical house afloat with fewer than 75% of your members living in, I promise you.

Yes, there will still be many women who will have to take a chance on chapters they felt they didn’t yet connect, it will still be competitive to get spots in most chapters, but hopefully the number of women receiving bids will be in a greater proportion to the number of women starting the process.

The housed vs unhoused chapters is a tricky dynamic at any school, and is made even worse by IU’s silly bed quota system and culture of exclusivity. In the end, women have to decide if they would rather be greek for life (without a house for four years) or not greek at all.

And the Rho Gamma who told her group that they should rank the unhoused chapters last because they have to take everyone should be ashamed of herself and be reported. NOW. As a Rho Gamma you should be impartial, you should not make blanket statements about how to rank, and you should not perpetuate falsehoods that “those chapters have to invite everyone back.” It’s just ridiculous, and NOT TRUE.

Continued luck to all the PNMs, actives, alumnae and parents. And put pressure on your respective groups. I agree with AXORushAdvisor, that I would never want a daughter of mine to experience IU rush, and would not want to send my money that way, either. When alumnae women who are already deeply involved with membership in their organizations are actively dissuading other women from participating (or, actively telling them to participate at a different school instead), you know your campus needs to make some changes. I don’t care if it’s your “tradition” or “culture,” or it “works for the actives.” Sorry Hoosiers, but it’s getting to the point that you’re embarrassing yourselves. And I worry about the damage you’re really doing by having decades of higher disappointment levels than are necessary. I do understand there is disappointment in everyone’s recruitment experience, but IU does things to set itself up for more problems. Your NPC recruitment is diseased, in my diagnosis. We all know that just because something’s always been done a certain way, that does not mean it’s always been done the correct way.

[arrowlady]

Originally Posted by kchaptergphib

My own thoughts, after being a membership advisor at 2 other schools and attending a third; take them with as much salt as you will:

I really want to take everyone from the (housed) house corp boards at IU and shake them. Seriously, alumnae, make some better decisions for the health of the entire system! There is no good reason to set quotas so artificially low. None. You can figure out a way to keep your physical house afloat with fewer than 75% of your members living in, I promise you.

Yes, there will still be many women who will have to take a chance on chapters they felt they didn’t yet connect, it will still be competitive to get spots in most chapters, but hopefully the number of women receiving bids will be in a greater proportion to the number of women starting the process.

The housed vs unhoused chapters is a tricky dynamic at any school, and is made even worse by IU’s silly bed quota system and culture of exclusivity. In the end, women have to decide if they would rather be greek for life (without a house for four years) or not greek at all.

And the Rho Gamma who told her group that they should rank the unhoused chapters last because they have to take everyone should be ashamed of herself and be reported. NOW. As a Rho Gamma you should be impartial, you should not make blanket statements about how to rank, and you should not perpetuate falsehoods that “those chapters have to invite everyone back.” It’s just ridiculous, and NOT TRUE.

Continued luck to all the PNMs, actives, alumnae and parents. And put pressure on your respective groups. I agree with AXORushAdvisor, that I would never want a daughter of mine to experience IU rush, and would not want to send my money that way, either. When alumnae women who are already deeply involved with membership in their organizations are actively dissuading other women from participating (or, actively telling them to participate at a different school instead), you know your campus needs to make some changes. I don’t care if it’s your “tradition” or “culture,” or it “works for the actives.” Sorry Hoosiers, but it’s getting to the point that you’re embarrassing yourselves. And I worry about the damage you’re really doing by having decades of higher disappointment levels than are necessary. I do understand there is disappointment in everyone’s recruitment experience, but IU does things to set itself up for more problems. Your NPC recruitment is diseased, in my diagnosis. We all know that just because something’s always been done a certain way, that does not mean it’s always been done the correct way.

yes...

And to the mom's of the IU girls, I am sorry for the emotional rollercoaster your girls are on. It is tough at any school for the most part, but IU is the craziest recruitment out there. What I can't understand is why the two un-housed sororities are not making plans to become housed so that all IU greeks get the same experience.

[KDCat]

Originally Posted by kchaptergphib

My own thoughts, after being a membership advisor at 2 other schools and attending a third; take them with as much salt as you will:

I really want to take everyone from the (housed) house corp boards at IU and shake them. Seriously, alumnae, make some better decisions for the health of the entire system! There is no good reason to set quotas so artificially low. None. You can figure out a way to keep your physical house afloat with fewer than 75% of your members living in, I promise you.

Yes, there will still be many women who will have to take a chance on chapters they felt they didn’t yet connect, it will still be competitive to get spots in most chapters, but hopefully the number of women receiving bids will be in a greater proportion to the number of women starting the process.

The housed vs unhoused chapters is a tricky dynamic at any school, and is made even worse by IU’s silly bed quota system and culture of exclusivity. In the end, women have to decide if they would rather be greek for life (without a house for four years) or not greek at all.

And the Rho Gamma who told her group that they should rank the unhoused chapters last because they have to take everyone should be ashamed of herself and be reported. NOW. As a Rho Gamma you should be impartial, you should not make blanket statements about how to rank, and you should not perpetuate falsehoods that “those chapters have to invite everyone back.” It’s just ridiculous, and NOT TRUE.

Continued luck to all the PNMs, actives, alumnae and parents. And put pressure on your respective groups. I agree with AXORushAdvisor, that I would never want a daughter of mine to experience IU rush, and would not want to send my money that way, either. When alumnae women who are already deeply involved with membership in their organizations are actively dissuading other women from participating (or, actively telling them to participate at a different school instead), you know your campus needs to make some changes. I don’t care if it’s your “tradition” or “culture,” or it “works for the actives.” Sorry Hoosiers, but it’s getting to the point that you’re embarrassing yourselves. And I worry about the damage you’re really doing by having decades of higher disappointment levels than are necessary. I do understand there is disappointment in everyone’s recruitment experience, but IU does things to set itself up for more problems. Your NPC recruitment is diseased, in my diagnosis. We all know that just because something’s always been done a certain way, that does not mean it’s always been done the correct way.

Say it with me... "parlor fees."

Each sister who is living out is charged a parlor fee that covers meals at the house and use of the house facilities.

[cinder1965]

Originally Posted by KDCat

Say it with me... "parlor fees."

Each sister who is living out is charged a parlor fee that covers meals at the house and use of the house facilities.

KDCat, I am a housing corp board member for my chapter and I was about to say the same things.....all together ladies: Parlor fees. That is exactly what we do with some 20 members; we have a full house and a new member class initiated right now. Yes, we have to manage it and make sure our house is always full and the members understand we must have a full house to have live outs....but this is NOT brain surgery. We can offer many living options for many different member situations.

This IU situation is reaching ridiculous levels now.....

[33girl]

Originally Posted by kchaptergphib

I really want to take everyone from the (housed) house corp boards at IU and shake them. Seriously, alumnae, make some better decisions for the health of the entire system! There is no good reason to set quotas so artificially low. None. You can figure out a way to keep your physical house afloat with fewer than 75% of your members living in, I promise you.

But they can't keep their house afloat if women don't join because they don't want to be part of a chapter that bucks a system. This is kind of like telling a chapter at Ole Miss "This whole wearing dresses on game day thing is stupid and costs too much for dry cleaning. Stop doing it." or telling a chapter at {insert frilly rush school here} that excessive rush decorations are ridiculous and need to be discontinued immediately. Those things would negatively affect rush numbers, I'm sure.

A culture change like this has to be a decision that ALL the chapters make together. Either that, or one of the most exclusive chapters has to decide to make the change and show that they still have the close sisterhood.

BadCat25 is right, the trustees of the university are the ones who need to change this. That way, the headquarters of the sororities can pretend they're aghast that their rights as independent organizations are being taken away (even though they will all be doing a Myposian Dance Of Joy) and avoid having alumnae or actives yelling at them.

The problem is, from what everyone has posted, the university LIKES that the Greek system is such a mess since that keeps it from getting stronger. This is where it comes down to $$$. Parents, do as AXORushAdvisor did, and vote with your checkbook. Too bad it will take a couple thousand of you to make a dent.

[Maman]

Originally Posted by 33girl

BadCat25 is right, the trustees of the university are the ones who need to change this. That way, the headquarters of the sororities can pretend they're aghast that their rights as independent organizations are being taken away (even though they will all be doing a Myposian Dance Of Joy) and avoid having alumnae or actives yelling at them.

How can the admissions committee and the BOT not realize that this established 'recruitment process' diminishes their accepted applicant pool? It also impacts their Autumn Fund from Alumni.