Indiana University 2014 Recruitment

[AOII Angel]

Originally Posted by suzy88

2013:

• 1,735 women registered
• 1,025 received bids
• 146 women not matched in process
• 182 women released for grades
• 135 participated in preference round and did not receive bids
• 376 withdrew themselves from recruitment
• Nearly 64% of women registered joined chapters

2012:

• 1,720 women registered
• 890 received bids
• 252 women were not matched throughout the process
• 74 released for grades
• 196 participated in preference round and did not receive bids
• 504 withdrew themselves from recruitment
• Nearly 52% of women registered joined chapters
• Average chapter size is 156

2011:

• 1,511 registered for recruitment
• 908 receieved bids
• 85 were released for grades
• 108 participated in preference round and did not receive bids
• 128 were released total
• 340 withdrew themselves from recruitment
• 60% of women registered joined chapters

Here are the statistics, cut and pasted directly from IU Panhellenic's website. The cuts are NOT due to grades. Bed quota is the issue. I believe many women withdraw themselves from recruitment on this campus because they do not feel they are being matched with chapters that they connect with or they are turned off by the nature of this rush. The point is, there aren't enough places for them all in the first place.

I agree that all of the story is not grades, but if you look at the numbers, it is not ALL bed quota either. An average of 394 women withdraw completely rather than being open minded and taking what their options are and giving it a try. EVERY school cuts and at every school women are faced with not having the options they thought they would or should. That was 21.7% last year, 29.3% in 2012 and 22.5% in 2011. As you can see a lot of the fault for the dismal placement numbers lies in the hands of the PNMs who won't take the invitations offered to them. Not all groups fill their slots, so there is room for improvement, but that has to come from both sides.
Getting rid of bed quota won't magically give all these women their top choices. Doesn't work that way.

[suzy88]

Originally Posted by AOII Angel

I agree that all of the story is not grades, but if you look at the numbers, it is not ALL bed quota either. An average of 394 women withdraw completely rather than being open minded and taking what their options are and giving it a try. EVERY school cuts and at every school women are faced with not having the options they thought they would or should. That was 21.7% last year, 29.3% in 2012 and 22.5% in 2011. As you can see a lot of the fault for the dismal placement numbers lies in the hands of the PNMs who won't take the invitations offered to them. Not all groups fill their slots, so there is room for improvement, but that has to come from both sides.
Getting rid of bed quota won't magically give all these women their top choices. Doesn't work that way.

My daughter rushed in 2011-12. She didn't get a bid. When she asked about informal recruitment, she was told there would be none, because everyone made their numbers! I saw the email from Panhellenic that stated that. I do not know about the other years, but I've heard that they were the same. I agree that women drop because they didn't get their favorites and that is a problem.
However, even if all women maximized their options on this campus, many women would be left out in the cold. Please don't blame the victims for the current situation at IU. They need a system where the number of bids is based on the number of women participating.

[AZTheta]

Originally Posted by suzy88

My daughter rushed in 2011-12. She didn't get a bid. When she asked about informal recruitment, she was told there would be none, because everyone made their numbers! I saw the email from Panhellenic that stated that. I do not know about the other years, but I've heard that they were the same. I agree that women drop because they didn't get their favorites and that is a problem.
However, even if all women maximized their options on this campus, many women would be left out in the cold. Please don't blame the victims for the current situation at IU. They need a system where the number of bids is based on the number of women participating.

No one is "blaming the victims" in this thread. Read carefully, please. What AOII Angel is stating is that eliminating bed quota =/= all the pnms get their top choice(s). That won't be the case. What it does mean (eliminating bed quota) is that, per RFM, quota will be set based on the # of women signing MRABAs divided by the number of chapters (did I state that correctly, AZ-AlphaXi?). That's a far cry from the present system, where there is no quota per se.

[AZ-AlphaXi]

Originally Posted by AZTheta

No one is "blaming the victims" in this thread. Read carefully, please. What AOII Angel is stating is that eliminating bed quota =/= all the pnms get their top choice(s). That won't be the case. What it does mean (eliminating bed quota) is that, per RFM, quota will be set based on the # of women attending preference parties divided by the number of chapters (did I state that correctly, AZ-Alpha Xi?). That's a far cry from the present system, where there is no quota per se.

Actually, when using RFM, quota is set using the number of PNMs who sign MRABA forms .. so women who attend preference but don't sign MRABA forms aren't counted into quota.

[AOII Angel]

Originally Posted by suzy88

My daughter rushed in 2011-12. She didn't get a bid. When she asked about informal recruitment, she was told there would be none, because everyone made their numbers! I saw the email from Panhellenic that stated that. I do not know about the other years, but I've heard that they were the same. I agree that women drop because they didn't get their favorites and that is a problem.
However, even if all women maximized their options on this campus, many women would be left out in the cold. Please don't blame the victims for the current situation at IU. They need a system where the number of bids is based on the number of women participating.

Victims is a ridiculous word to use, IMHO. Just because no one was doing Informal does NOT mean no one had spots unfilled at the end of recruitment. With supply and demand the way it is, chapters needing a few girls need only make a few calls to fill their houses. (This also belies the claim that the unhoused chapters take everyone, huh?) You are missing a huge point in all of this. Opening up recruitment to normal market forces like most campuses use will still mean that most of these unhappy women will still end up in the SAME chapters they are unhappy to be offered invitations to currently. Having more spots open won't suddenly change your desirability. It's not a huge conspiracy against these individual women. Instead, they need to look at these chapters and see them in the light that they want people to look at the PNMs that feel disenfranchised and unloved. They are doing to those chapters EXACTLY what they accuse the more desired chapters of doing to them. The only real "victims" are the women who are completely released with no options at all. If you don't take an opportunity given to you, then that is your CHOICE. No one is crying for you. We all make choices in life no matter how imperfect. Some choices are just harder to live with than others.