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			Only some of the audience.   
 
Thus is the nature of whiteness and "race only when it is convenient, entertaining, and worth acknowledging." 
 
So those of you who are easily lost and cannot see how these pages addressed diversity in the SEC:  Long story short, no, it is not happening at a larger scale for many years to come.  The people who want diversity in the SEC need to first unpack the invisible knapsack. Well, they first need to get more whites to acknowledge there even is an invisible knapsack.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
				  
				
					
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			No Phil, you yacked your butt off and the eyes of GreekChat collectively glazed over. This thread has pretty much lost its audience; next time, you could tone it down.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
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				08-26-2013, 10:47 AM
			
			
			
		  
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				Actually, I think that the audience got bored by the rhetoric. Recruitment is going on and we have more entertaining things to do. 
			
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				As I have also said a couple of times in this thread, my posts are not about diversity in the SEC 
			
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 I hadn't been following this thread after it went to the 2nd page. But seeing it expand to 7 pages just piqued my curiosity.
 
I did not intend to bring this up because I do find it very snide of me to do so; however in my experience any one continuing to lord and lecture beyond a certain point has a greater motive than simply education.
 
I am also a bit confused on your stance as to the purpose of diversity. When you yourself do not want your own GLO to be racially diverse?
 
This is anecdotal as it has been quite a few years since it occured. When I was on our campus' Greek Diversity Encouragement Council. I remember none of the NPHC groups wanted to take part in it. It was as if they preferred being themselves racially segregated yet at the same time point out about the 'white' dominance of IFC and NPC glos. I also remember how we made a point that the traditionally NPC/IFC Songfest philanthropy event was open to NPHC groups (as well as other groups like Dorm/Residential Orgs) but I think only Alpha Phi Alpha took up the offer, and it only happened once. And on top of that I remember various Greek town hall-stye meetings where NPHC members were invited, as well as the other greek councils, their participation was minimal.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
				  
				
					
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				...the eyes of GreekChat collectively glazed over. This thread has pretty much lost its audience; next time, you could tone it down. 
			
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Greekchat has silent lurkers and people who both agree and disagree for every thread. Yet when it comes to race and diversity threads, some of you are so cowardly that you pretend as though everyone feels as you do and a consensus has been reached.  I would love for you all to take this "either this or that" stance with other GC threads. 
 
I will keep doing what I do. You had a post pages ago that essentially stated you were done with the discussion.  You know the routine.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
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			Two interesting things: 
 
1) No one has asked me, as the OP, what I meant/intended by the question 
 
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2) At least one person has admitted to purposely not answering the questions but providing answers to questions which were not asked. 
 
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				Two interesting things: 
 
1) No one has asked me, as the OP, what I meant/intended by the question 
 
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2) At least one person has admitted to purposely not answering the questions but providing answers to questions which were not asked. 
 
Seems counterproductive to me. 
			
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				Are we talking about "diversity" or are we talking about African American participation? 
			
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				There was this question in the first reply to your post 
			
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 I don't know what "we" were talking about...only what "I" was talking about.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
		
	
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				So what did you mean by posting the thread? 
			
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 I'm not sure that it's relevant any longer!  This thread had gotten way too difficult to deal with as some have admittedly gone afield on purpose.  I think I'll just do like Dr. King, decide to stick with love as hate is too great a burden to bear.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
		
	
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			  Did you need people to beg you or wait for you to explain what you meant?  GC threads sometimes go on even without the OP because people see a general topic(s). Why should this thread be different?  Every GC thread contains comments that may or may not directly or indirectly pertain to the OP. LOL.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
				  
				
					
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				Please do not cite her as the white NPHCer. LOL. Her membership was different.  
 
If SEC wants more diversity, they should think about these types of things.    
			
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 LOL. People claim Eleanor Roosevelt like she was setting it off on the yard. 
 
There was a white Delta on GC for a while. 
 
I don't think the SEC wants more diversity as a goal. I remember seeing black rushees at UF back in the early 90s. This was before the boom in attendance due to the National Championships and Bright Futures, but back then they were relegated to a few "bottom-tier" chapters. I suspected even then that they were more interested in being NPC than adding diversity to their chapters, LOL.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
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				  Did you need people to beg you or wait for you to explain what you meant?  GC threads sometimes go on even without the OP because people see a general topic(s). Why should this thread be different?  Every GC thread contains comments that may or may not directly or indirectly pertain to the OP. LOL.  
			
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 I simply said it was "interesting."  Perhaps it was not "interesting" to you - or others.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
		
	
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