Might sound weird, but if I am being completely honest...

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by BlueOwl

Not a popular opinion, I know, but I also think that some level of hazing is acceptable. For women joining sororities I think that dressing up in funny or cute costumes on Big Sis reveal night is FUN!! But for example, at my daughter's school (Big, public in CA) her chapter considers this hazing!

Originally Posted by DGTess

I agree that hazing has become the "zero tolerance" of university education. I've been told of events/traditions that are scrapped because "someone" "might" consider them a form of hazing.

Exactly. The problem is not that some level of hazing is acceptable but nevertheless is prohibited. Hazing is not acceptable. Period.

The problem is that too often some things are labeled as hazing when they really aren't hazing.

[DeltaBetaBaby]

Originally Posted by MysticCat

Exactly. The problem is not that some level of hazing is acceptable but nevertheless is prohibited. Hazing is not acceptable. Period.

The problem is that too often some things are labeled as hazing when they really aren't hazing.

I feel like this would be a good place to teach collegians some critical thinking skills. "Oh, you want to do X? What's the worst possible thing that could happen if you do X? How might a member or pledge feel if made to do X? What are the benefits of activity X?" and so on...