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Old 03-12-2013, 04:26 PM
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If Tulane's Panhellenic is that upset by the decision, they can hold a special re-rush for those 150 women and declare them "freebies" for chapters that may want to take them.

And sophomores and juniors can rerush, why on earth would you say they cannot? Their pledge to ZTA has been broken by ZTA's decision, if another group wants to offer them a bid today they are eligible.
ZTA waited about a month following formal recruitment to start thier colonization. COBs were done right after recruitment when total was recalculated so there is very little chance of a bid this semester. Anyone committed to Zeta is free to go through recruitment next January. This does not solve the problem of the large sizes of existing chapters which is why extension was recommended in the first place.
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Old 03-12-2013, 08:25 PM
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This does not solve the problem of the large sizes of existing chapters which is why extension was recommended in the first place.
How big did the chapters get before Panhel finally gave the greenlight to extension? This is something that doesn't happen overnight and everyone involved should have been aware of that. In other words they didn't go from 100 people last fall to 220 this fall. The only time that happens is when there's a monumental change to the whole institution (i.e. it adds a new school of study or something) or when a similar institution for some reason becomes undesirable to large numbers of new students.
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Old 03-12-2013, 09:48 PM
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When PhiMu was colonized in 2010, total was around 120. This was in the fall before recruitment. Tulane opened for expansion again in 2011 and selected ZTA and ADII for a stacked extension. Total was around 150 in the fall of 2011 and over 160 this past fall. Quota is has been been just below 70 for the past two years which brings total to over 200 after recruitment especially when quota additions are included. The issue is that PhiMu just brought more people into the system and did not really reduce total. Quota dipped for one year and then shot right back up to where it had been before. The large chapter sizes did not happen overnight but then it takes a while for the whole extension process. The percentage of women who are interested in being Greek has increased with extension.

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Old 03-13-2013, 06:27 PM
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When PhiMu was colonized in 2010, total was around 120. This was in the fall before recruitment. Tulane opened for expansion again in 2011 and selected ZTA and ADII for a stacked extension. Total was around 150 in the fall of 2011 and over 160 this past fall. Quota is has been been just below 70 for the past two years which brings total to over 200 after recruitment especially when quota additions are included. The issue is that PhiMu just brought more people into the system and did not really reduce total. Quota dipped for one year and then shot right back up to where it had been before. The large chapter sizes did not happen overnight but then it takes a while for the whole extension process. The percentage of women who are interested in being Greek has increased with extension.
I was looking for this, because it helps paint a more complete picture. If ZTA had colonized with 150 members, and average chapter size is 236 they are 86 members down, IF they retain all their colony members (which rarely happens). Trying to COB up to average chapter size is doable when you need 10 or so girls, but 86 is a difficult task, and you would not want to put the burden of continually holding COB events on your new colony.

The poster said that quota has been just below 70 for the past 2 years. Quota typically takes a small dip the formal recruitment after a colonization, so lets say that next years quota is 65. Providing the established chapters all pledged quota and ZTA pledged quota too, ZTA's membership numbers would still be significantly lower than the other chapters which would eventually be detrimental to the chapter. Unless Panhellenic allows ZTA to snap bid and they can snap bid up to the new average chapter size( which would be difficult to do), it will always be a catchup game for the chapter.
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Old 03-13-2013, 11:28 AM
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ZTA waited about a month following formal recruitment to start thier colonization. COBs were done right after recruitment when total was recalculated so there is very little chance of a bid this semester. Anyone committed to Zeta is free to go through recruitment next January. This does not solve the problem of the large sizes of existing chapters which is why extension was recommended in the first place.
Curious about the COB after recruitment. Was there not a moratorium on no COBing with Zeta coming on? I would think that would have used up some of Zeta's potential new member pool. Total was recalculated down or up after COB? Is it normal to wait a month after recruitment to start a colonization process? Seems like a long time and your captive audience wouldn't be so captive any more?
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Old 03-13-2013, 12:02 PM
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Is it normal to wait a month after recruitment to start a colonization process? Seems like a long time and your captive audience wouldn't be so captive any more?
Yes, but the Bitter Betties are also probably a lot less bitter. The last thing you want as a new colony is a bunch of women who come into it 2.5 minutes after not getting bids with the attitude of "ABC didn't want us, so screw them, we'll all join the new colony and show them." You would hope the people doing the interviewing etc would be wise enough to catch that, but you never know.
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Old 03-13-2013, 12:48 PM
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Mardi Gras fell between recruitment and the colonization start so that may have been a factor in the timing. There was a moritorium on COB for just over three weeks during the Zeta colonization period. Three weeks is the maximum specified in the NPC. Total is recalculated each semester as the average of all groups and total did go up because of the new members. I don't know if COB was a huge impact since all of the groups were within 5% of total in the fall and everyone took quota. My impression is that there were not many COB offered.
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