Rec girl going through at Wake Forest this week!

[Pinky657]

33 girl- Though KBG does not have a voice in panhel, they still participate in formal recruitment.

[TSteven]

Originally Posted by DeltaBetaBaby

Yeah, it just seems a bit naive, that's all.

I agree with you. And in hindsight, I am sure some of the NPCs do too.

Originally Posted by Pinky657

33 girl- Though KBG does not have a voice in panhel, they still participate in formal recruitment.

Interesting. While it is not unusual that some colleges require non-affiliated (as in with a national council) sororities to belong to the campus panhellenic council – often as an associate member - they normally do not participate in formal NPC recruitment. They may have a limited “voice”, but mainly with regards to general GLO business.

I find it odd that a non NPC chapter - that has "no voice in the panhellenic council" - would participate in formal NPC recruitment. Why do they do so? Are they a member (associate member perhaps) of the Wake College Panhellenic Council and are required to participate? And are they included in things like quota and chapter total?

[AOII Angel]

Originally Posted by TSteven

I agree with you. And in hindsight, I am sure some of the NPCs do too.



Interesting. While it is not unusual that some colleges require non-affiliated (as in with a national council) sororities to belong to the campus panhellenic council – often as an associate member - they normally do not participate in formal NPC recruitment. They may have a limited “voice”, but mainly with regards to general GLO business.

I find it odd that a non NPC chapter - that has "no voice in the panhellenic council" - would participate in formal NPC recruitment. Why do they do so? Are they a member (associate member perhaps) of the Wake College Panhellenic Council and are required to participate? And are they included in things like quota and chapter total?

I think they probably participate despite having no voice because they continue to recruit strongly. If that changed, they would likely stop participating in formal recruitment.

[TSteven]

Originally Posted by AOII Angel

I think they probably participate despite having no voice because they continue to recruit strongly. If that changed, they would likely stop participating in formal recruitment.

That makes sense.

From the NPC side, other than the university mandating the College Panhellenic Council do so, what would be the benefit to/for NPC chapters to allow non NPC chapters to participate? It seems to me that in doing so, it could have a direct effect on quota (less new members). And perhaps effect making chapter total for some NPCs.

What I don’t understand is that with the NPC’s Unanimous Agreements and Green Book, recruitment seems to be very regulated for the NPC chapters. To keep that even playing field as it were and to support other NPC chapters. So other than having a University mandate (i.e. possible campus policies and guidelines regarding recruitment), it seems that non NPC chapters might have an “unfair” advantage simple because they do not have to “play by the (NPC) rules”. Even if they say they will follow NPC guidelines, they are not bound (Unanimous Agreements) to do so.

[DeltaBetaBaby]

Originally Posted by TSteven

That makes sense.

From the NPC side, other than the university mandating the College Panhellenic Council do so, what would be the benefit to/for NPC chapters to allow non NPC chapters to participate? It seems to me that in doing so, it could have a direct effect on quota (less new members). And perhaps effect making chapter total for some NPCs.

What I don’t understand is that with the NPC’s Unanimous Agreements and Green Book, recruitment seems to be very regulated for the NPC chapters. To keep that even playing field as it were and to support other NPC chapters. So other than having a University mandate (i.e. possible campus policies and guidelines regarding recruitment), it seems that non NPC chapters might have an “unfair” advantage simple because they do not have to “play by the (NPC) rules”. Even if they say they will follow NPC guidelines, they are not bound (Unanimous Agreements) to do so.

If they participate in FR, it's assumed that they follow the FR rules. Most campuses have rules that go above and beyond the Green Book (for example, any campus with a frilly rush has budget restrictions). For the NPC groups, it may be better to have a non-NPC group working under the same rules than to have, for example, XYZ local who throws events with boys and alcohol and showers PNM's with gifts and so on.

[TSteven]

Originally Posted by DeltaBetaBaby

If they participate in FR, it's assumed that they follow the FR rules. Most campuses have rules that go above and beyond the Green Book (for example, any campus with a frilly rush has budget restrictions). For the NPC groups, it may be better to have a non-NPC group working under the same rules than to have, for example, XYZ local who throws events with boys and alcohol and showers PNM's with gifts and so on.

Again, that makes sense.

Would participation go so far as to include bid matching? Or does the non NPC chapter "drop out" of formal recruitment at some point?

[DeltaBetaBaby]

Originally Posted by TSteven

Again, that makes sense.

Would participation go so far as to include bid matching? Or does the non NPC chapter "drop out" of formal recruitment at some point?

I don't know specifically about Wake, but I know there are other campuses where "associate" members of the CPH participate only in the first round. At my alma mater, women visit 4H house during open houses, but do not return.