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01-03-2013, 09:20 AM
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Dee, there is no use arguing with people who have been indoctrinated with "people don't pay their taxes" and "why would you work hard if they'll just take you money" even though they are ridiculous statements. The Republican Party has done a great job convincing people that someday they will magically be in the 1% and want to protect their "hard earned money" from the government. It's a fallacy. It cracks me up when my mother worries more about what my tax burden will be than her own. Seriously?
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01-03-2013, 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by AOII Angel
Dee, there is no use arguing with people who have been indoctrinated with "people don't pay their taxes" and "why would you work hard if they'll just take you money" even though they are ridiculous statements. The Republican Party has done a great job convincing people that someday they will magically be in the 1% and want to protect their "hard earned money" from the government. It's a fallacy. It cracks me up when my mother worries more about what my tax burden will be than her own. Seriously?
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You don't have to talk about me like I'm not here and/or stupid. Im realistic about my potential earnings, I know I'll most likely never be in the 1%, and the Republican party hasn't brainwashed me into thinking that I will be one day.
I can think for myself and form an opinion on my own.. just like you.
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01-03-2013, 02:08 PM
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This kind of discussion, and the idea that the poor should pay more and the wealthy should pay less, always reminds me of this:
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"Are there no prisons?" asked Scrooge.
"Plenty of prisons," said the gentleman, laying down the pen again.
"And the Union workhouses?" demanded Scrooge. "Are they still in operation?"
"They are. Still," returned the gentleman, "I wish I could say they were not."
"The Treadmill and the Poor Law are in full vigour, then?" said Scrooge.
"Both very busy, sir."
"Oh! I was afraid, from what you said at first, that something had occurred to stop them in their useful course," said Scrooge. "I'm very glad to hear it."
"Under the impression that they scarcely furnish Christian cheer of mind or body to the multitude," returned the gentleman, "a few of us are endeavouring to raise a fund to buy the Poor some meat and drink and means of warmth. We choose this time, because it is a time, of all others, when Want is keenly felt, and Abundance rejoices. What shall I put you down for?"
"Nothing!" Scrooge replied.
"You wish to be anonymous?"
"I wish to be left alone," said Scrooge. "Since you ask me what I wish, gentlemen, that is my answer. I don't make merry myself at Christmas and I can't afford to make idle people merry. I help to support the establishments I have mentioned -- they cost enough; and those who are badly off must go there."
"Many can't go there; and many would rather die."
"If they would rather die," said Scrooge, "they had better do it, and decrease the surplus population. Besides -- excuse me -- I don't know that."
"But you might know it," observed the gentleman.
"It's not my business," Scrooge returned. "It's enough for a man to understand his own business, and not to interfere with other people's. Mine occupies me constantly. Good afternoon, gentlemen!"
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01-04-2013, 09:27 AM
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You don't have to talk about me like I'm not here and/or stupid. Im realistic about my potential earnings, I know I'll most likely never be in the 1%, and the Republican party hasn't brainwashed me into thinking that I will be one day.
I can think for myself and form an opinion on my own.. just like you.
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You don't know how brainwashed you are. You pay taxes now don't you? You don't just sit home and throw up your hands because the government takes out a percentage? If the Bush tax cuts were not renewed, and your rates went up to the original levels, would you do everything you could to reduce your salary so that you could get to the rate level that you were previously at even if it meant you were at a lower take home pay? Probably not. That is what you think the 1% are going to do because of this tax increase. It doesn't make any sense.
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01-04-2013, 10:14 AM
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You don't know how brainwashed you are. You pay taxes now don't you? You don't just sit home and throw up your hands because the government takes out a percentage? If the Bush tax cuts were not renewed, and your rates went up to the original levels, would you do everything you could to reduce your salary so that you could get to the rate level that you were previously at even if it meant you were at a lower take home pay? Probably not. That is what you think the 1% are going to do because of this tax increase. It doesn't make any sense.
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If you ever run for office, call me. I think I might have a contribution to make toward your campaign.
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01-04-2013, 10:27 AM
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If you ever run for office, call me. I think I might have a contribution to make toward your campaign.
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LOL. My husband always says he can't ever run for office bc I'd sabotage him.
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01-04-2013, 11:13 AM
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LOL. My husband always says he can't ever run for office bc I'd sabotage him.
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run in a blue state....he'd be arright.
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