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08-03-2012, 05:53 PM
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No, not whatever. Dejamon Baker is 12 years old.
Controlling for her mother's traffic warrants, perhaps you would view tasering a 12 year old child differently if she looked like this 12 year old girl:

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Nope and what a classless move to even suggest as much.
I don't care how old the child was. If she was not obeying lawful orders and the officer followed appropriate procedures for escalation of force, that's all I care about. Ultimately, what the officer did prevented all involved from escalating the violence any further and much to my surprise, only the mother went to jail that day. It sounds like the officer used a lot of discretion in not charging the other individuals who were interfering.
From the story, apparently another adult was also engaged in the resistance. This felon-mother wasn't going away quietly.
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08-03-2012, 06:09 PM
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Nope and what a classless move to even suggest as much.
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You should have stuck with "no" and left out the "classless" edit. You would not be the first person whose opinions are shaped by appearance.
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I don't care how old the child was.
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If I did not think the words "class," "classy," and "classless," were really stupid when not dealing with social class and socioeconomic status, I would say that it is "classless" for you to believe that a child of any age should be tased.
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08-03-2012, 06:19 PM
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You should have stuck with "no" and left out the "classless" edit. You would not be the first person whose opinions are shaped by appearance.
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My first edit was a lot more crass. What you implied there was a jackass thing to imply.
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If I did not think the words "class," "classy," and "classless," were really stupid when not dealing with social class and socioeconomic status, I would say that it is "classless" for you to believe that a child of any age should be tased.
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I'm sure the officer would have loved to hear you lecture him about class and white privilege and such while he was effecting an arrest on a felon with her 12-year old and other adults interfering in the arrest.
If you don't pay your tickets, you go to the pokey. You resist a police officer, you get hurt. Actions have consequences and stupidity knows no race or class.
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08-03-2012, 06:29 PM
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My first edit was a lot more crass. What you implied there was a jackass thing to imply.
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And I stand behind that post 100%.
As evidenced by....
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I'm sure the officer would have loved to hear you lecture him about class and white privilege and such while he was effecting an arrest on a felon with her 12-year old and other adults interfering in the arrest.
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You completely missed what I was saying in that post. Completely. That is okay because you have confirmed why I stand behind my other post 100%.
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Very poor job of reporting by Huff Post, not by you, Dr. Phil. The warrants were for drug TRAFFICKING, not traffic tickets.
Looks to me like this child might have seen her mother arrested on a couple of other occasions...
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Every reputable news source that I found states "traffic tickets." There are some ignorant forums that state "drug trafficking." If you can find news sources that confirm that it is drug trafficking, please post the links.
That does not mean that a 12 year old child should be tasered but I do like to have the correct facts.
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08-03-2012, 06:52 PM
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Every reputable news source that I found states "traffic tickets." There are some ignorant forums that state "drug trafficking." If you can find news sources that confirm that it is drug trafficking, please post the links.
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Try this: https://www.courts.mo.gov/casenet/ca...earchType=name
and enter her name Charlene E Bratton and note the criminal drug cases for several years.
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08-03-2012, 07:00 PM
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Does that mean that she was being arrested for a drug trafficking warrant last week?
 I should create a thread about Charlene E. Bratton because this thread is about a 12 year old child being tasered.
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08-03-2012, 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by DrPhil;
I should create a thread about Charlene E. Bratton because this thread is about a 12 year old child being tasered.
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No, it's about taking Charlene E Bratton, convicted felon at her word when she tells us her tale of woe about an arrest. It's much more likely that the 12-year old and the accompanying adults were refusing to obey lawful orders and acting in a threatening manner than the officer tazing a little girl for "just standing there." You've picked the wrong side of this fight and probably because of the skin color of the alleged victim.
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08-03-2012, 07:07 PM
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 I should create a thread about Charlene E. Bratton because this thread is about a 12 year old child being tasered.
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 Whatever... I was just trying to answer the question that you asked about the mother.
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