Chick-fil-a Support Day and Free Speech

[sigmadiva]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

Sigmadiva is just being random. I typed "power minority" and "power majority" and sigmadiva felt the need to do a diatribe (ironic, I know). She must have thought that "minority" only references racial and ethnic minorities.

And as I stated, for me it does.

It just deeply offends me when White gays act like they are the same "type" of minority that they can equate with being Black or Hispanic.

What I see is White gays do a very good job of trying to convince people that just because gays can't get married, then they are a minority that is akin to Blacks with respect to slavery and the after-effects of slavery in this country. I never buy it.

As I stated before, being Black and being gay are not the same thing with respect to being a minority.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by sigmadiva

And as I stated, for me it does.

And that is your problem.

Short list of power minorities:

1. Women--sexism, misogyny, patriarchy
2. Racial and ethnic minorities--racism and discrimination
3. LGBT--heterosexism and genderism
4. People with physical conditions--disability discrimination
5. Age groups (50+ in many contexts)--ageism

Back to the real discussion.

[sigmadiva]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

And that is your problem.

I accept that. Which is why whenever a White gay tries to convince me that we suffer / have suffered the same injustice, I will say no.

Its an issue that I have chosen to take a stand on. Yours may be broader than mine.

Short list of power minorities:

1. Women--sexism, misogyny, patriarchy
2. Racial and ethnic minorities--racism and discrimination
3. LGBT--heterosexism and genderism
4. People with physical conditions--disability discrimination
5. Age groups (50+ in many contexts)--ageism

Back to the real discussion.

I agree with this list.

[agzg]

Originally Posted by sigmadiva

And as I stated, for me it does.

It just deeply offends me when White gays act like they are the same "type" of minority that they can equate with being Black or Hispanic.

What I see is White gays do a very good job of trying to convince people that just because gays can't get married, then they are a minority that is akin to Blacks with respect to slavery and the after-effects of slavery in this country. I never buy it.

As I stated before, being Black and being gay are not the same thing with respect to being a minority.

But what about the Black gays? Can the Black gays win the Oppression Olympics? What about the wild card, Black transgendered women?

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by agzg

But what about the Black gays? Can the Black gays win the Oppression Olympics? What about the wild card, Black transgendered women?

On a serious note, Black LGBT are a double minority. There are community groups and research about how Black LGBT have double minority statuses. Many feel rejected by the Black community and by the LGBT community.

The Oppression Olympics.

Originally Posted by sigmadiva

I accept that.


I agree with this list.

LOL. You are being strange and random. If you agree with my short list, the point you are making is moot.

[sigmadiva]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

LOL. You are being strange and random. If you agree with my short list, the point you are making is moot.

Perhaps....


My point is, in terms of minority, the idea that Whites consider themselves a minority is truly laughable to me me. As a group, they exercise more power and influence than anyone else. So I ask them, 'Where is the suffering?'

[sigmadiva]

Originally Posted by agzg

But what about the Black gays? Can the Black gays win the Oppression Olympics? What about the wild card, Black transgendered women?

Yes, they suffer a double 'whammy' - being Black and gay.

[DrPhil]

Yeah well we entertained sigmadiva's posts. LOL.

[sigmadiva]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

Yeah well we entertained sigmadiva's posts. LOL.

Thank you! It just prolonged what I need to do - go wash some dishes!

[Senusret I]

If you ate at Chick-fil-A yesterday, I hope you get salmonella poisoning and die.

[barbino]

Originally Posted by Senusret I

If you ate at Chick-fil-A yesterday, I hope you get salmonella poisoning and die.

Thanks, Sen. I was waiting for a response from you. Your views may be different from mine for obvious reasons - you are gay; I am an evangelical Christian. But I would never say that I hope that you or any of my gay friends (and let me assure you, having been in the cat fancy I have had many) should get sick and die.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by barbino

you are gay; I am an evangelical Christian.

Are these supposed to be opposites?

Originally Posted by barbino

(and let me assure you, having been in the cat fancy I have had many)

Uh....

[KSig RC]

Originally Posted by barbino

Thanks, Sen. I was waiting for a response from you. Your views may be different from mine for obvious reasons - you are gay; I am an evangelical Christian. But I would never say that I hope that you or any of my gay friends (and let me assure you, having been in the cat fancy I have had many) should get sick and die.

Would you say your best friend was in the cat fancy?

[MysticCat]

As long as we're sharing Facebook postings, both my cousin and a friend -- one a minister and one a minister's wife -- shared this today:

[amIblue?]

Originally Posted by MysticCat

As long as we're sharing Facebook postings, both my cousin and a friend -- one a minister and one a minister's wife -- shared this today:

Love. It.