E-Mails Suggest Paterno Role in Silence on Sandusky

[DrPhil]

This has now become a braggadocious insistence that Penn State is so whatever that this could only happen there. Okay, Penn State enthusiasts and sympathizers, this is all about Penn State. You all can have this shit. Good fucking grief.

[AOII Angel]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

This has now become a braggadocious insistence that Penn State is so whatever that this could only happen there. Okay, Penn State enthusiasts and sympathizers, this is all about Penn State. You all can have this shit. Good fucking grief.

They just keep missing the point. And, I don't think it would have happened the same way at LSU as it did at PSU. Les Miles can't shit without someone second guessing him. Don't get me wrong, LSU may be hiding other things, but no one would stand behind Miles for this. It takes an environment like the one fostered with Paterno as the law of the land with no checks or balances for so many years. Miles had no hand in picking the AD, President or Chancellor at LSU. Their jobs aren't riding on Miles' approval. I have no doubt that Les Miles would be driven out of town by a mob, and that I can guarantee given the mobs that form when he dares to lose a football game.

[VandalSquirrel]

Originally Posted by thewasher418

May I introduce you to my home state (Louisiana), where people who have NEVER SET FOOT in Baton Rouge, never went to ANY college or went to another one (like I did), live and breathe LSU football. This is not unique.

Originally Posted by AOII Angel

I didn't know you were from LA! Amen! LSU is Mecca no matter where you went to school or even I'd you didn't (which applies to most people) and is one of the ties that binds the citizens of the state.

I didn't even know that people were into college sports who didn't attend the school or have at least a family member who did until I moved to Idaho. I then became aware of some team at a JC in Boise with the same colors of a Kraft macaroni and cheese box and the same logo as a football team in Denver.

Don't most big football schools have the capability to not only have a scandal and cover it up? In most cases it involves the actual players and coaches and not outsiders, let alone children. I think that this affects reactions and attitudes because unlike grades/academics, rape, drugs, and money/gifting, most people don't have gray areas when it comes to child molestation and covering it up.

[AOII Angel]

Originally Posted by VandalSquirrel

I didn't even know that people were into college sports who didn't attend the school or have at least a family member who did until I moved to Idaho. I then became aware of some team at a JC in Boise with the same colors of a Kraft macaroni and cheese box and the same logo as a football team in Denver.

Don't most big football schools have the capability to not only have a scandal and cover it up? In most cases it involves the actual players and coaches and not outsiders, let alone children. I think that this affects reactions and attitudes because unlike grades/academics, rape, drugs, and money/gifting, most people don't have gray areas when it comes to child molestation and covering it up.

This I think is very true. What happened at PSU took some special Kool-aid that everyone must be on guard to prevent. Checks and balances are important. No one should be THAT important. How to fix the other problems? Pay players what they deserve? Ban NFL scouts and sports agents from college campuses? Hold coaches personally responsible for their players misdeeds? No college program is squeaky clean. Supposedly they are rewriting the rule book so we'll see.

As for areas that take college football seriously, it usually happens where pro-football isn't as dominant. I guarantee that throughout the SEC the fan base is more non-alum, state resident than actually comprised of alumni.