E-Mails Suggest Paterno Role in Silence on Sandusky

[AOII Angel]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

This is where we keep saying the same thing over and over again. Yes, this can happen at any institution. Yes, this is about power dynamics. No, this is not just about college athletics. No, this is not just about Penn State.

Now that we have appeased some of the Penn Staters and anti-Penn Staters who needed this redundancy (they know who they are--I do not think they are in this thread):

Jerry Sandusky Case: Paterno family urges release of all Penn State memos in scandal

BTW...don't know where the smiley face came from. It popped up on my post and when you're on an iPad, it's too big of a pain in the ass to get rid of it.

Now that we're done petting the Penn Staters, I'm sick of hearing people jump to Paterno's defense to the detriment of the entire case. Being a good coach with a great reputation, dying of cancer before the end of the investigation and being an institution in the State of Pennsylvania do not earn you a pass. He may come out fine in the end, but IF he was involved in a cover up, all his good work deserves a nice thick coat of tarnish.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by AOII Angel

BTW...don't know where the smiley face came from. It popped up on my post and when you're on an iPad, it's too big of a pain in the ass to get rid of it.

I was intrigued by " The sad thing is...."

Originally Posted by AOII Angel

Now that we're done petting the Penn Staters, I'm sick of hearing people jump to Paterno's defense to the detriment of the entire case. Being a good coach with a great reputation, dying of cancer before the end of the investigation and being an institution in the State of Pennsylvania do not earn you a pass. He may come out fine in the end, but IF he was involved in a cover up, all his good work deserves a nice thick coat of tarnish.

From the general public's perspective (since we only know the after the fact cliff notes of Sandusky's offenses, Paterno's health, and the institutional dynamics) this all happened so darn quickly. Those who are in shock and awe (and who feel the need to pick a side) will make some...interesting...comments. I think Paterno's family just wants the truth to be told if there will be an investigation at the institution-level. They want ALL the emails to be released rather than a biased selection of emails.

Redundancy/

The-institution-that-shall-not-be-named did what many institutions have done/would do/will do by responding almost too darn quickly (i.e., replacing Sandusky on the mural and alleged debate over Paterno statue). This made it seem as though they were saving face, protecting their brand, keeping their money, etc. It made some people think the officials at The-institution-that-shall-not-be-named were more "oh snap, what was in the dark is now in the light" rather than "darn, we never knew the alleged incidents were happening...omg."

Again, perception.

/Redundancy

[als463]

Originally Posted by AOII Angel

BTW...don't know where the smiley face came from. It popped up on my post and when you're on an iPad, it's too big of a pain in the ass to get rid of it.

Now that we're done petting the Penn Staters, I'm sick of hearing people jump to Paterno's defense to the detriment of the entire case. Being a good coach with a great reputation, dying of cancer before the end of the investigation and being an institution in the State of Pennsylvania do not earn you a pass. He may come out fine in the end, but IF he was involved in a cover up, all his good work deserves a nice thick coat of tarnish.

Seriously, what is your problem? So, Penn Staters are not allowed to be upset about this whole thing? What holier-than-thou school did you attend that you think it is okay to talk about us like we are a bunch of children who need our egos stroked?

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by als463

Seriously, what is your problem? So, Penn Staters are not allowed to be upset about this whole thing? What holier-than-thou school did you attend that you think it is okay to talk about us like we are a bunch of children who need our egos stroked?

Certainly your reading comprehension is better than this. Take off your Penn State Goggles for a second.

[als463]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

Certainly your reading comprehension is better than this. Take off your Penn State Goggles for a second.

I take offense to her statement. I don't feel the need to be "petted" or given special treatment. I just ask that people not continue to jump to conclusions and realize that while college is four years for some people, Penn State is more than college to many of us Alumni. It represents so much more than just somewhere we earned a college degree. No need to be hateful. The Penn State goggles statement also falls along those lines. Normally I agree with what you say but, I am a bit upset you would feel the need to say something like this, as well.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by als463

I don't feel the need to be "petted" or given special treatment.

Then her comment does not apply to you. Duh. Use your reading comprehension skills.

Originally Posted by als463

The Penn State goggles statement also falls along those lines. Normally I agree with what you say but, I am a bit upset you would feel the need to say something like this, as well.

You will get over it.

The fact of the matter is that Penn Staters like you are one of the reasons why this will keep being about Penn State--almost to the detriment of the much larger point.

[AnchorAlum]

Originally Posted by als463

I take offense to her statement. I don't feel the need to be "petted" or given special treatment. I just ask that people not continue to jump to conclusions and realize that while college is four years for some people, Penn State is more than college to many of us Alumni. It represents so much more than just somewhere we earned a college degree. No need to be hateful. The Penn State goggles statement also falls along those lines. Normally I agree with what you say but, I am a bit upset you would feel the need to say something like this, as well.

I certainly appreciate what you're saying and I believe that the majority of PSU graduates are of a similar mind.

But to those who are seeing this tragedy from afar may read things on message boards by a small minority who are vocal and angry that PSU is in the spotlight and that includes those who never set foot on the PSU campus, and are only followers of the sports teams. These folks grind their ax, so to speak, from a football fan's POV, and it can negatively affect the overall impression that others may have of the institution.

The surest cure is time, in my opinion.