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Originally Posted by Low C Sharp
The author didn't claim that she said no and was forced. She just said that the members handed her drinks and that she drank them. That seems consistent with your experience (and with mine when I was a college student). Again, we don't know if her story is true, but in her version of events, the expectation that she drink is enough to create a dangerous hazing situation. The members have a duty not to create the pressure to drink in the first place.
It would be a much better and safer world if every young person had the self-assurance to say no in that situation, but most people do not.
Tying in the George Desdunes death at Cornell that the NYTimes wrote about today, that student died from a .4 BAC.
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Her version of the events is this: "we were guided into the back seat of a car and
one of our future sisters commanded us to chug the alcoholic punch that had been pre-prepared for each of us in individual 64-ounce water bottles."
Sounds like an order to me rather than a simple expectation. That's what I was talking about, which is much different than asking someone if they'd like to have a drink and sharing it with them. Even with the expectation you mention, under the more casual social type of drinking, a person can accept a drink and pretend to sip at it if he/she is uncomfortable with saying no, no harm no foul.
My point was that it is beyond my experience to "command" someone to drink. However, there are enough of these stories in the world that I know it does happen.
(Also, "pre-prepared" is a stupid, made up word.)
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