Sorority Strongholds?

[BAckbOwlsgIrl]

I going to add a wrench into all of this.

I think that have the large amount of chapters in a given state is important.
However, wouldn't it also be important to look at the given school/s in the state including the strength of the chapters, RMF issues, grades, campus/community involvement and quota/retention?

So ABC has 27 chapters BIG STATE. However they are at

• BOONIEVILLE DRUNKEN BIG STATE - struggles, barely has enough to fill the house and closest thing to sober on campus
• NORTHEAST BOONIEVILLE DRUNKEN BIG STATE - unofficial keg stand champions but don't tell their national.
• SOUTHEAST BOONIEVILLE DRUNKEN BIG STATE - Campus chapter of the year, the golden child.
• UNIVERSITY OF BIG STATE - struggles, poor grades, lack of sisterhood, not making quota, will close soon

Alumnae are active to keep the chapters going. Occasional teas and toddlers programs.

VS.

XYZ in the same state

• PRESTIGIOUS PRIVATE UNIVERSITY - Campus chapter of the year, the golden child.
• UNIVERSITY OF BIG STATE - Campus chapter of the year, the golden child. Every PNM wants this chapter. Legacy line around the block.

Alumnae mentor collegians, networking opportunities. Huge annual XYZ Debutante Ball that benefits the local children's hospital. Anchor of one of the television news stations is an alumna.

[TriDeltaSallie]

Originally Posted by BAckbOwlsgIrl

I going to add a wrench into all of this.

I think that have the large amount of chapters in a given state is important.
However, wouldn't it also be important to look at the given school/s in the state including the strength of the chapters, RMF issues, grades, campus/community involvement and quota/retention?

So ABC has 27 chapters BIG STATE. However they are at

• BOONIEVILLE DRUNKEN BIG STATE - struggles, barely has enough to fill the house and closest thing to sober on campus
• NORTHEAST BOONIEVILLE DRUNKEN BIG STATE - unofficial keg stand champions but don't tell their national.
• SOUTHEAST BOONIEVILLE DRUNKEN BIG STATE - Campus chapter of the year, the golden child.
• UNIVERSITY OF BIG STATE - struggles, poor grades, lack of sisterhood, not making quota, will close soon

Alumnae are active to keep the chapters going. Occasional teas and toddlers programs.

VS.

XYZ in the same state

• PRESTIGIOUS PRIVATE UNIVERSITY - Campus chapter of the year, the golden child.
• UNIVERSITY OF BIG STATE - Campus chapter of the year, the golden child. Every PNM wants this chapter. Legacy line around the block.

Alumnae mentor collegians, networking opportunities. Huge annual XYZ Debutante Ball that benefits the local children's hospital. Anchor of one of the television news stations is an alumna.

I completely agree that it is not just about numbers. There is much more that comes into play when talking about the prestige and/or influence factors of different groups in different states.

For example (and I'm thinking off the top of my head here), there are a few groups that started out at primarily teaching schools. I'm guessing those groups are well represented in some states (including Michigan) in the teaching ranks. I would guess they also have a stronger network in the state. Being a Tri Delta means almost nothing in Michigan (unless you live near Ann Arbor). Being Greek is more of an advantage to me than being a Tri Delta. But I would be willing to guess that some of the other groups in Michigan have excellent networking set up because they are widespread. Is it on the same level as some of the prestigious set-ups down south? No, but probably still helpful for those women involved.

[DeltaBetaBaby]

Originally Posted by BAckbOwlsgIrl

I going to add a wrench into all of this.

I think that have the large amount of chapters in a given state is important.
However, wouldn't it also be important to look at the given school/s in the state including the strength of the chapters, RMF issues, grades, campus/community involvement and quota/retention?

So ABC has 27 chapters BIG STATE. However they are at

• BOONIEVILLE DRUNKEN BIG STATE - struggles, barely has enough to fill the house and closest thing to sober on campus
• NORTHEAST BOONIEVILLE DRUNKEN BIG STATE - unofficial keg stand champions but don't tell their national.
• SOUTHEAST BOONIEVILLE DRUNKEN BIG STATE - Campus chapter of the year, the golden child.
• UNIVERSITY OF BIG STATE - struggles, poor grades, lack of sisterhood, not making quota, will close soon

Alumnae are active to keep the chapters going. Occasional teas and toddlers programs.

VS.

XYZ in the same state

• PRESTIGIOUS PRIVATE UNIVERSITY - Campus chapter of the year, the golden child.
• UNIVERSITY OF BIG STATE - Campus chapter of the year, the golden child. Every PNM wants this chapter. Legacy line around the block.

Alumnae mentor collegians, networking opportunities. Huge annual XYZ Debutante Ball that benefits the local children's hospital. Anchor of one of the television news stations is an alumna.

Exactly. In Illinois, for example, the two most desirable schools to be at are U of I and Northwestern, both good schools with big Greek life. From there, there's an immediate drop-off in numbers at any of the "directional" or private schools.

That said, though, if someone had asked me off the top of my head what group was strongest in Illinois, Delta Zeta would have come to mind, so the sheer number of chapters isn't meaningless, but if they were not at U of I or NW, that answer may be different.

[LAblondeGPhi]

Originally Posted by DeltaBetaBaby

Exactly. In Illinois, for example, the two most desirable schools to be at are U of I and Northwestern, both good schools with big Greek life. From there, there's an immediate drop-off in numbers at any of the "directional" or private schools.

That said, though, if someone had asked me off the top of my head what group was strongest in Illinois, Delta Zeta would have come to mind, so the sheer number of chapters isn't meaningless, but if they were not at U of I or NW, that answer may be different.

Oh, I totally agree with these points. For example, in California (because I'm a broken record, you know), Phi Sigma Sigma has nine chapters, while Chi Omega has eight. If you just looked at the numbers, you might think that Phi Sig has a stronger presence in the state, but then you look at the campuses:

Phi Sigma Sigma
San Francisco State University
California State University - Bakersfield
Chapman University
Woodbury University
California State Universiy - Stanislaus
University of LaVerne
California State University - Sacramento
California State University - Dominguez Hills
Sonoma State University

Chi Omega
University of California
Stanford University
University of California - Los Angeles
Universiy of California - Santa Barbara
University of California - Davis
California State Polytechnic University - Pomona
University of California - San Diego
California Polytechnic State University

As non-Californians, which of these campuses are you familiar with?

[irishpipes]

Originally Posted by DeltaBetaBaby

Exactly. In Illinois, for example, the two most desirable schools to be at are U of I and Northwestern, both good schools with big Greek life. From there, there's an immediate drop-off in numbers at any of the "directional" or private schools.

That said, though, if someone had asked me off the top of my head what group was strongest in Illinois, Delta Zeta would have come to mind, so the sheer number of chapters isn't meaningless, but if they were not at U of I or NW, that answer may be different.

I am also from Illinois, but if you asked me to name the 10 strongest NPCs in the state, I wouldn't have listed DZ. Go figure

[honeychile]

Alpha Delta Pi's Top States By Numbers of Chapters:

North Carolina -11
California - 10
Florida - 10
Texas - 10
Florida - 9
Georgia - 9
Tennessee - 9
Pennsylvania - 8
South Carolina - 8

The rest have seven chapters or less. North Carolina being so prolific has been since I was active (a thousand or two years ago), but Pennsylvania has lost at least three of which I know. If pressed, I'd probably say that ADPi is stronger on the East Coast/South East than the rest of the country, with the obvious exception of California.