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01-05-2012, 10:53 AM
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The woman did what she felt necessary to do for her and her child's safety, but I'm not understanding why the accomplice was charged with first degree murder?
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01-05-2012, 10:58 AM
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The woman did what she felt necessary to do for her and her child's safety, but I'm not understanding why the accomplice was charged with first degree murder?
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Prosecutors have charged his alleged accomplice, 29-year-old Dustin Louis Stewart, with first-degree murder. According to authorities, Stewart was with Martin but ran away from McKinley's home after hearing the gunshots.
"When you're engaged in a crime such as first-degree burglary and a death results from the events of that crime, you're subject to prosecution for it," Walters said.
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01-05-2012, 11:05 AM
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No, I read it. It just doesn't make any sense to me.
The accomplice didn't pull the trigger, obviously. I would assume that investigators ruled out the possibility that the accomplice wasn't somehow forced to participate, but that's not known from the article.
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01-05-2012, 01:36 PM
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No, I read it. It just doesn't make any sense to me.
The accomplice didn't pull the trigger, obviously. I would assume that investigators ruled out the possibility that the accomplice wasn't somehow forced to participate, but that's not known from the article.
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The prosecutors are using the felony murder rule http://dictionary.law.com/Default.aspx?selected=741
As long as there is a felony act in which a death occurs, you can be charged with that murder even though you had no intent to kill nor did you actually pull the trigger.
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01-05-2012, 01:42 PM
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GOOD GIRL!!! Proud of her & her shooting skills. She could be a Texan, although we wouldn't bother to ask a 911 operator for permission to kill the bastards. I'm just sorry that she didn't get them both.
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01-05-2012, 02:35 PM
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The prosecutors are using the felony murder rule http://dictionary.law.com/Default.aspx?selected=741
As long as there is a felony act in which a death occurs, you can be charged with that murder even though you had no intent to kill nor did you actually pull the trigger.
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Thanks for the definition KD. It now "hangs together" as far as it goes, and technically answers my question.
Here's what gave thought to my earlier comment, however. How is it that criminal participants can do/commit the same crime, yet one or more often get lesser or more severe sentences than their co-criminals (and I undertstand people turning state's evidence on each other in exchange for lighter sentences.) Are their reasons, other than state's evidence, for this?
And, in your opinion, does the co-criminal in the OP likely carry the 1st degree charge becuase a death occurred?
Don't you just love the way I assumed you were an attorney?
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01-05-2012, 02:52 PM
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Thanks for the definition KD. It now "hangs together" as far as it goes, and technically answers my question.
And, in your opinion, does the co-criminal in the OP likely carry the 1st degree charge becuase a death occurred?
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Unable to give opinion. Although I graduated from law school, I never passed the bar and thus am not an attorney.
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I agree with the girl's right to defend herself and her child (even though I don't like that someone died) but, while I understand the with the interpretation of this law, I disagree with it.
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A lot of the reasoning behind the rule has to do with foreseeability. If you burn a building down, you it is foreseeable that an occupant or firefighter may killed, even if you thought the building was empty and no one would fight the fire. So the intent comes in when you intend to commit the violent felony (arson, robbery, rape, kidnapping) where someone COULD get killed.
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That is different than what happened here. A firefighter or occupant is an unwilling participant in the fire--the arsonist would have started that fire with no regard to their wills or wishes and would thus be responsible for the situation. The person who was shot in this scenario was (presumably) willingly and knowingly burglarizing the house with his accomplice. That is why it isn't logical to me that someone is responsible for his own actions yet someone else is responsible for his consequences.
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