Keeping College Students from Voting

[SWTXBelle]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

"Common sense" is as subjective as when AOII Angel used "ridiculous."

Since I qualified it with "Seems to me" I made it clear it was my subjective opinion, as opposed to presenting it as objective fact.


This reality adds something to the "well, we need a photo ID for everything else" part of the debate.

How painless the procedures are will vary by who, what, when, where, and why...but, photo ID is still not required. LOL.

To quote directly from the TSA website:

"Adult passengers (18 and over) are required to show a U.S. federal or state-issued photo ID in order to be allowed to go through the checkpoint and onto their flight.
We understand passengers occasionally arrive at the airport without an ID, due to lost items or inadvertently leaving them at home. Not having an ID, does not necessarily mean a passenger won’t be allowed to fly. If passengers are willing to provide additional information, we have other means of substantiating someone’s identity, like using publicly available databases.
Passengers who are cleared through this process may be subject to additional screening. Passengers whose identity cannot be verified by TSA may not be allowed to enter the screening checkpoint or onto an airplane."




So - they require an ID but if a passenger can provide additional information (unspecified) they may - or may not - be allowed to fly. I wonder how many of the aforementioned groups who do not have ID would be able to provide information that would allow TSA to pass them through the checkpoint. Not knowing what constitutes acceptable additional information I guess we'll never know.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by SWTXBelle

Since I qualified it with "Seems to me" I made it clear it was my subjective opinion, as opposed to presenting it as objective fact.

It is difficult for something to only be your subjective opinion and still be "common sense." Saying "seems to me...common sense" implies that challenges to that not only challenge your subjective opinion but perhaps challenge (or lack) the "common sense" approach that you claim to have.

[PiKA2001]

Originally Posted by SWTXBelle

To quote directly from the TSA website:

"Adult passengers (18 and over) are required to show a U.S. federal or state-issued photo ID in order to be allowed to go through the checkpoint and onto their flight.
We understand passengers occasionally arrive at the airport without an ID, due to lost items or inadvertently leaving them at home. Not having an ID, does not necessarily mean a passenger won’t be allowed to fly. If passengers are willing to provide additional information, we have other means of substantiating someone’s identity, like using publicly available databases.
Passengers who are cleared through this process may be subject to additional screening. Passengers whose identity cannot be verified by TSA may not be allowed to enter the screening checkpoint or onto an airplane."




So - they require an ID but if a passenger can provide additional information (unspecified) they may - or may not - be allowed to fly. I wonder how many of the aforementioned groups who do not have ID would be able to provide information that would allow TSA to pass them through the checkpoint. Not knowing what constitutes acceptable additional information I guess we'll never know.

http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/200...a-nixes-flyin/

Losing or forgetting your Passport or Photo ID is a completely different situation than never having a photo ID or passport. If you were to give me your name, date of birth, and social security number I could pull up your actual drivers license and passport (if you had one) in about 3 minutes, if you've never had a license or state issued ID, or a criminal record...you'd be like a ghost to the systems I use.