Survivor: South Pacific (Survivor Season 23)

[AlphaFrog]

Thanks to the delay, I ended up getting home just in time to see the whole thing.

While I hadn't been impressed with Sophie most of the game, she did well in front of the jury. It seemed like she was given the most opportunity to answer legit questions. I actually thought Coach did a decent job of at least giving the jury the answers they were looking for. Unfortunately for them, I think Ozzy had it nailed that most of the jury members didn't want to vote for any of them.

I am interested to see what happens next season. I would also love to see them bring Cochran back in a future season, now that he seems to have gained some self-awareness. Although it might go to his head that he would be the "celebrity" of his tribe.

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by AlphaFrog

Unfortunately for them, I think Ozzy had it nailed that most of the jury members didn't want to vote for any of them.

I agree. I just sat there thinking "what a brutal tribal council." I was interested how many of the jurors talked about the use/misuse of religion.

I haven't watched the reunion yet, but I did watch up until Sophie won. (And I groaned when Probst told us Russell was there. Can we just ban any Hantzes from ever appearing on the show -- even for a second -- again? Please?!)

I thought Sophie was really the only choice among the three. I had liked her early on, then became disappointed in her. But I thought she did very well in front of the jury. While I agree with Edna and Cochrane that they're on Survivor, and manipulation is all part of the game, I think Coach was just too big of a hypocrite to win.

And good grief, Ozzy really is arrogant and immature -- though I would have voted for him hands down if he'd been in the Final 3.

[AlphaFrog]

I haven't read any post-show anything yet - I wonder if Albert was shocked that he didn't get ANY votes? He seemed pretty confident going into final tribal, but I wonder if he saw the light by the end?

[ASTalumna06]

I think if Coach hadn't made any promises, as a Christian man or otherwise, he would have been handed a check for a million dollars last night. What Edna said is true.. It's all part of the game, being duped at some point by the 3 people left at the end.. But Coach preached about playing an honest game and used his faith to make people believe he was being genuine, which either offended those who were religious, or simply just pissed people off.

[AlphaFrog]

The religion thing had been wearing on my nerves all season. There have been some genuine people who did it okay - though still made me cringe at times. Matt from the first RI and Leslie from China come to mind. I did not feel that religion was used genuinely at all this season - not once. I felt it was used for manipulation and show.

However, it would make for an interesting twist to do a multi-tribe season divided by religion. Christian, Jewish, Muslim, Atheist maybe? Yes, I understand that it oversimplifies and leaves out religious classifications, but you would have to draw a line somewhere. I don't think it would ever happen - too easy to piss off more people than the intrigue gains. It would still be an interesting social experimentation.

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by ASTalumna06

I think if Coach hadn't made any promises, as a Christian man or otherwise, he would have been handed a check for a million dollars last night. What Edna said is true.. It's all part of the game, being duped at some point by the 3 people left at the end.. But Coach preached about playing an honest game and used his faith to make people believe he was being genuine, which either offended those who were religious, or simply just pissed people off.

Exactly. That's the hypocrisy I was talking about. Coach made it all about honor and integrity, and he seemed to delude himself into thinking that he was living up to that until the very end. That's what cost him the $1M, I think. Not the manipulation and stabbing people in the back, not even telling Cochrane he was Hercules. It was the way in which everyone could see that he had not only lied, but had done so while berating others for lack of honor and integrity.

I thought one of the smartest things Sophie did at TC was to reveal how the HII was found and how Coach participated in praying that it would be found when he had it in his pocket. The look on Brandon's face was priceless.

Since I haven't watched the reunion yet, I don't know if it was covered or not -- do we know how the jurors (other than Cochrane and Dawn) voted?

[ASTalumna06]

Originally Posted by MysticCat

I thought one of the smartest things Sophie did at TC was to reveal how the HII was found and how Coach participated in praying that it would be found when he had it in his pocket. The look on Brandon's face was priceless.

Since I haven't watched the reunion yet, I don't know if it was covered or not -- do we know how the jurors (other than Cochrane and Dawn) voted?

I was shocked when Sophie did that, but I was laughing at the same time. What I remembered most during that episode was Coach saying something along the lines of, "I'm not lying.. I'm simply omitting the truth" .. But again, he did it by using Brandon's faith to pull it off.

Coach really did screw himself.

I was also wondering how everyone voted. I thought I must have missed it, but I guess not..

[AlphaFrog]

It was 3/6 with Cochran, Jim and Brandon (moron) voting Coach.

It was also revealed that Keith and Whitney are now dating, despite Whitney being in a relationship when the game started. I actually didn't see that one coming, they didn't seem THAT buddy-buddy out there...Ponderosa romance, I guess?

[SWTXBelle]

Originally Posted by MysticCat

I haven't watched the reunion yet, but I did watch up until Sophie won. (And I groaned when Probst told us Russell was there. Can we just ban any Hantz's from ever appearing on the show -- even for a second -- again? Please?!)

Hantz's WHAT?

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by AlphaFrog

It was also revealed that Keith and Whitney are now dating, despite Whitney being in a relationship when the game started.

Actually, that came out a few months ago. And that relationship when the game started was, from what I've read, a marriage that she and her husband didn't tell anyone about.

Originally Posted by SWTXBelle

Hantz's WHAT?

LOL!!



(It's fixed now.)

[AlphaFrog]

Forgot to mention this before, but did it look to anyone else that Brandon had gotten additional tattooage to cover up the "loco"?