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Originally Posted by cheerfulgreek
I agree. I totally don't see anything wrong with kissing, either. I mean, there are all kinds of things couples can do with each other sexually without actually "doing the do".
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...uhh, doesn't that kind of defeat the purpose of waiting? Heavy petting, oral sex, and even anal sex* ARE SEX. Just because they don't make the babeez doesn't reduce their significance as sex acts. It's still an extremely intimate act with another person.
It seems like Christians are the craziest about this. I know plenty of Muslims and Orthodox Jews who didn't have sex before they were married...at all. There was kissing, but none of this "everything but, including up the butt" nonsense that Christians seem to come up with. There's this really weird shame about adult human sexuality. I don't think you'd just automatically shed it after marriage, either.
*I knew people who took those G-d awful chastity pledges and still had anal sex. 

Unprotected, of course, because only slutty sluts bring condoms and therefore PLAN to have sex.