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11-14-2011, 03:56 PM
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Joe Paterno's name off Big Ten trophy
In light of the child sex-abuse scandal at Penn State, Joe Paterno's name has been removed from the new Big Ten championship trophy, the conference announced Monday.
The Big Ten said that the crisis at Penn State, which led to Paterno's firing as coach Wednesday night, prompted the decision to remove his name from the Stagg-Paterno Championship Trophy. The trophy will be awarded Dec. 3 at the inaugural Big Ten football championship game at Indianapolis.
The trophy will now be called the Stagg Championship Trophy.
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http://espn.go.com/college-football/...ionship-trophy
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11-14-2011, 04:08 PM
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I have mixed feelings about that. I guess those in power have decided that Paterno and others were too concerned with protecting Penn State football and did not do what they should have done.
On another note, the CEO of Second Mile has quit.
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1. My feelings aren't mixed. I think it's over the top. What's done is done, though.
2. I heard about the CEO. Not sure why that flew under the radar.
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11-14-2011, 04:18 PM
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2. It is difficult for the news agencies to keep up with all that is going on. Here are the top 3 stories that I have read about:
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Meh. Goliath has been taken down, so the "celebrity" appeal of the story has worn off. Now, we're back to Kim K and Regis retiring.
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a. Sandusky's ex-daughter-in-law has filed a restraining order to keep him from her kids;
b. The CEO of Second Mile has quit.; and
c. The judge who freed Sandusky on bail was a volunteer for Second Mile.
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I've only seen (b). I'll be looking up the others. Thanks.
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11-14-2011, 04:32 PM
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As a side story, Sandusky supposedly receives a hefty pension from Penn State.
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Last night on the news they said it is ~60,000.00 / yr.
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11-14-2011, 05:03 PM
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An interesting article about the perspective of Matt Paknis, former Penn State coach and victim of sexual abuse:
http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/452834...ge_football//*
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It should be made clear that Paknis did not witness any sexual abuse while at Penn State as a graduate assistant coach in 1987 and 1988, before leaving to pursue a master's degree in architecture at the University of Rhode Island. He did, however, see some things that made him queasy, especially in light of his own background, and especially when it came to Sandusky.
“He was always grabbing the players,” Paknis says. “He would get in their space, lean up right against them. I’d also been taught you don’t touch anyone unless you are teaching a technique. Boundaries were clearly an issue. It made me feel awkward, the way he would grab or pinch them.”
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Paknis didn’t think much of the Penn State power structure, or the man at the top, who “wouldn’t give you time of day unless you were on his level, or have any interaction with you without it serving him.” He saw a system that served as a “kingdom,” designed to serve a single person, without checks or balances. He saw a coach who had been able to produce a constructive output on the field, but “underneath, optimized fear.”
And he saw a community that bought so completely into the image that “he does things the right way,” that his way was rarely questioned.
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Paknis thinks Paterno knew something earlier even than 1999, when Sandusky resigned, one year after one boy — Victim 6 in the indictment — reported an incident to his mother, and it was investigated by university police and the district attorney.
That’s because Paknis came to this simple conclusion during his two years in Happy Valley, a conclusion that doesn’t change after Paterno aged well past the point of the average working person:
“Joe knows everything.”
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11-14-2011, 05:13 PM
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This video interview with Sandusky from 1987 will make you vomit. He discusses how he loves to be around children and how he works to gain their trust. Yes, 1987.
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I enjoy being around children. I enjoy their enthusiam. I just have a good time with them.
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Sometimes they don't understand what you are trying to do, but kids want to be disciplined.
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Vomit, vomit.
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11-14-2011, 08:07 PM
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It's one of the worst things I've ever read.
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Amen. I weep for the innocent children this monster hurt. I pray there is a special place in Hell for people such as Sandusky.
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11-14-2011, 09:09 PM
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In a taped interview that will air tonight on Rock Center with Brian Williams (on NBC at 10pm) Sandusky says:
"I say that I am innocent of those charges...I could say that I have done some of those things." I have horsed around with kids I have showered after workouts. I have hugged them and I have touched their legs without intent of sexual contact." When pressed by Costas about what Sandusky was willing to concede that he'd done was wrong, Sandusky said, "I shouldn't have showered with those kids."
http://www.masslive.com/sports/index...r_penn_st.html
Just awful. How he can maintain that he is innocent with so many witnesses and victims that have come forward is beyond me.
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11-14-2011, 09:33 PM
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Originally Posted by DrPhil
Yep, in addition to his lump sum $150K retirement, he receives $60K/yr.
That may not seem hefty to some people but a lot of people would love to receive $60K/yr. after they retire and after they were (as some suspect) "encouraged to retire" amid allegations of being a pedophile.
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I can't vouch for some of these news sources, but:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...se-victim.html
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As a comment on the heftiness or lack thereof on the pension, I'd happily accept $60K annually to retire.
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11-14-2011, 11:07 PM
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Sandusky (I hate his name, btw, as my hometown is shares the same name) is on Rock Center on NBC right now, via phone, being interviewed by Bob Costas. He sounds.... I don't even know how he sounds. Horrible. He keeps explaining things away as being misunderstood. Sorry, but you don't misunderstand sodomizing a 10 year old boy.
Costas just said "Are you sexually attracted to young boys?" And the first thing out of his mouth wasn't a resounding "NO!" but a "Well, I enjoy being around young people......" and then 20 seconds later a "no."
Puke
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11-14-2011, 11:15 PM
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Sandusky (I hate his name, btw, as my hometown is shares the same name) is on Rock Center on NBC right now, via phone, being interviewed by Bob Costas. He sounds.... I don't even know how he sounds. Horrible. He keeps explaining things away as being misunderstood. Sorry, but you don't misunderstand sodomizing a 10 year old boy.
Costas just said "Are you sexually attracted to young boys?" And the first thing out of his mouth wasn't a resounding "NO!" but a "Well, I enjoy being around young people......" and then 20 seconds later a "no."
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Why would he even give interviews? He just sounds creepy. He needs a new lawyer.
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11-14-2011, 11:16 PM
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Originally Posted by IrishLake
Sandusky (I hate his name, btw, as my hometown is shares the same name) is on Rock Center on NBC right now, via phone, being interviewed by Bob Costas. He sounds.... I don't even know how he sounds. Horrible. He keeps explaining things away as being misunderstood. Sorry, but you don't misunderstand sodomizing a 10 year old boy.
Costas just said "Are you sexually attracted to young boys?" And the first thing out of his mouth wasn't a resounding "NO!" but a "Well, I enjoy being around young people......" and then 20 seconds later a "no."
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I haven't yet read the grand jury report, and I've been debating for days as to whether or not I should. After hearing people on GC say how awful it was, I think that I don't want to.. ever.
But now that I've started listening to Sandusky talk tonight, I can only imagine how that report reads.. and now I can't stop listening. It's mesmerizing and so incredibly sad.
I so badly want him brought to justice. He needs to be locked up forever.
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11-15-2011, 12:53 AM
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Has anyone figured out what Sandusky - who is out on bail, but didn't have to forfeit any money - was doing at LaGuardia earlier today?
I used to volunteer at a center for children who were at risk for pedophiles. The only way I could come to grips with some of the amazingly gross stuff I heard was from the Bible: "It were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and he cast into the sea, than that he should offend one of these little ones." There is no justice on earth that will compare to the wrath of God!
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11-15-2011, 01:33 AM
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Originally Posted by honeychile; "[B
It were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and he cast into the sea, than that he should offend one of these little ones.[/B]" There is no justice on earth that will compare to the wrath of God!
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Too bad that millstone can't be hanged about another part of his anatomy.
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11-15-2011, 10:17 AM
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Why would he even give interviews? He just sounds creepy. He needs a new lawyer.
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It's beyond me why his lawyer thought this was a good idea.
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