University of Illinois/Urbana-Champaign Recruitment

[AZTheta]

Originally Posted by HQWest

Granted this would be on a chapter by chapter based requirement - but chapters have a grade requirement to initiate, too.

Gosh, that is surprising. How would that work? Virtually every chapter that I'm familiar with (at Arizona and elsewhere) initiates within six-eight weeks of pledging/bid acceptance, and AFAIK, there's no 6-8 week quarter system or semester system. So freshmen new members are initiated prior to ever receiving any college grades. Granted, there may be a chapter here and there that delays initiation until after a quarter or semester is completed...and maybe someone on GC can comment on that.

The only grade requirement I'm aware of is that pertaining to eligibility for recruitment.

[HQWest]

Originally Posted by AzTheta

Gosh, that is surprising. How would that work? Virtually every chapter that I'm familiar with (at Arizona and elsewhere) initiates within six-eight weeks of pledging/bid acceptance, and AFAIK, there's no 6-8 week quarter system or semester system. So freshmen new members are initiated prior to ever receiving any college grades. Granted, there may be a chapter here and there that delays initiation until after a quarter or semester is completed...and maybe someone on GC can comment on that.

The only grade requirement I'm aware of is that pertaining to eligibility for recruitment.

The problem in this case is that she has a previous college GPA that is too low from that one summer class. Some would have to count her as having a college GPA - but too low to initiate. So panhellenic let her go through recruitment, but some chapters might be wary of giving her a bid. Its one more reason the system often favors freshmen.

[AZTheta]

Originally Posted by HQWest

The problem in this case is that she has a previous college GPA that is too low from that one summer class. Some would have to count her as having a college GPA - but too low to initiate. So panhellenic let her go through recruitment, but some chapters might be wary of giving her a bid. Its one more reason the system often favors freshmen.

I am thinking of eligibility to receive a bid, not initiating - which comes at the end of the new member period. Are we talking of two different things? Because I'm still not following your reasoning. I stand by my explanation that for the vast majority of chapters, there is no GPA requirement to initiate. To pledge, yes, but not to initiate.

In the scenario presented up thread, in which taking a single college level course at a community college yielded a 2.0 GPA, the pnm wouldn't even be eligible to go through recruitment at my university. That is, if the GPA was counted, and not the units.

[HQWest]

Originally Posted by AzTheta

I am thinking of eligibility to receive a bid, not initiating - which comes at the end of the new member period. Are we talking of two different things? Because I'm still not following your reasoning. I stand by my explanation that for the vast majority of chapters, there is no GPA requirement to initiate. To pledge, yes, but not to initiate.

In the scenario presented up thread, in which taking a single college level course at a community college yielded a 2.0 GPA, the pnm wouldn't even be eligible to go through recruitment at my university. That is, if the GPA was counted, and not the units.

Some chapters do have a GPA requirement either for the national organization or the chapter. Panhellenic might have said it was ok - that it was a single college course - but not every group would have their headquarters say it was ok to initiate her. Typical (in my neck of the woods) new member periods are maybe 8 weeks now, not the whole semester, in some cases it is as short as 2 weeks. In a competitive recruitment, it may be a risk to take a girl that you aren't sure about her grades.

[AZTheta]

Originally Posted by HQWest

Some chapters do have a GPA requirement either for the national organization or the chapter. Panhellenic might have said it was ok - that it was a single college course - but not every group would have their headquarters say it was ok to initiate her. Typical (in my neck of the woods) new member periods are maybe 8 weeks now, not the whole semester, in some cases it is as short as 2 weeks. In a competitive recruitment, it may be a risk to take a girl that you aren't sure about her grades.

OK I think I finally figured out what your thinking is:this pnm couldn't ever be initiated b/c she had an existing GPA of 2.0 based on ONE community college course.

(I'll set aside the whole "new member" shortened period.)

In that case, she likely wasn't even eligible to be offered a bid in the first place! Her 2.0 GPA would not meet the minimum requirement for most, if not all, GLOs or college Panhellenics to be eligible to go through recruitment.

Of course, then, there's the possibility that the chapter may take a "grade risk" but that is membership selection information.

She may well have chosen to go through recruitment, thinking that her HS GPA is what would be considered. In a reasonable world, it would be. This particular scenario is IMO bizarre and unreasonable. But it is what it is.

end of this swerve and now...

congratulations to all the Illinois new members!!!