University of Illinois/Urbana-Champaign Recruitment

[DG Illinois]

I was thinking it was not making quota as well. I was surprised because she had suicided and I thought that was the thing that would hurt her the most.
From talking with her, there were other girls that had to go in as well because they were being offered bids from houses that had released them 3rd round and they did not pref. Most of the girls were like her, very confused but crying because they were so happy. She was there by 11 AM with the other girls so it was taken care of quickly. Each pnm discussed it privately with panhell, so it's not like she knew what house each girl was getting a surprise bid offer from. But she did talk with some of the girls when they left and the bids were from houses they had been cut from 3rd party. My PNM is so happy. I am waiting for my niece and her best friend to update me as they did not receive a call and they should be there around 5PM. I think the reveal is at 6PM, not 100% sure on this. I did hear from all the girls that there were girls that were suiciding. It was taken care of this morning though, after what I'm sure was a crazy night for panhell.
I was really surprised and confused when I heard this as well. She doesn't have the bid in hand, she was advised she would receive her bid with everyone else today. But she had not written their name down (since she didn't pref them) so she needed to advise them if she would accept the bid.
Only the girls that were not matched were there and they told them they did not match, but they had been offered a bid by a different house.
It was the house that the bid was coming from that was surprising to me.

[AlphaFrog]

Originally Posted by Old_Row

Are people who suicide eligible for snap bids?

Nevermind...I had snap & QA mixed up in my brain...


But there still seems to be a lot of funk 'n stuff going on here and I'm wondering if someone's confused or not conveying the message properly...

[OneHeartOneWay]

Originally Posted by Old_Row

Are people who suicide eligible for snap bids?

Yes. From MOI:

If the preferential bidding system is used, women who indicate an intentional single
preference and do not receive an invitation to membership are eligible for snap bidding and
COB, but they are not eligible for quota addition.
Resolved (1995), That a potential new member who withdraws from the fully structured
recruitment process before the signing of her membership acceptance shall be eligible for
snap bidding and COB.

[TriDeltaSallie]

Originally Posted by DG Illinois

I was thinking it was not making quota as well. I was surprised because she had suicided and I thought that was the thing that would hurt her the most.
From talking with her, there were other girls that had to go in as well because they were being offered bids from houses that had released them 3rd round and they did not pref. Most of the girls were like her, very confused but crying because they were so happy. She was there by 11 AM with the other girls so it was taken care of quickly. Each pnm discussed it privately with panhell, so it's not like she knew what house each girl was getting a surprise bid offer from. But she did talk with some of the girls when they left and the bids were from houses they had been cut from 3rd party. My PNM is so happy. I am waiting for my niece and her best friend to update me as they did not receive a call and they should be there around 5PM. I think the reveal is at 6PM, not 100% sure on this. I did hear from all the girls that there were girls that were suiciding. It was taken care of this morning though, after what I'm sure was a crazy night for panhell.
I was really surprised and confused when I heard this as well. She doesn't have the bid in hand, she was advised she would receive her bid with everyone else today. But she had not written their name down (since she didn't pref them) so she needed to advise them if she would accept the bid.
Only the girls that were not matched were there and they told them they did not match, but they had been offered a bid by a different house.
It was the house that the bid was coming from that was surprising to me.

I'm glad for your PNM, but it's too bad she won't have the pleasure of attending preference at her new home. It's always such a beautiful experience. But, wow, what a head-spinning turn of events for her!

[ThetaPrincess24]

Originally Posted by Drolefille

High school GPAs are generally verified with the school in my experience. So if they're lying then their high school transcript catches it. Are you speaking about Illinois specifically or schools generally.

I figure there are almost no grade cuts for freshmen because high school GPAs tend to be higher than college ones and getting into the school often requires having higher than the minimum.

My school verifies freshman GPA by their high school transcripts. We do have several who put down a much higher GPA than their actual (and sometimes leads me to wonder hwo they got in to college) or this year we had a few put their high school GPA as being "2.6-2.8." We need an actual GPA not a GPA range, so we had to wait for verification.

[KDCat]

Originally Posted by DG Illinois

What just happened?

So while I have been sharing about my niece's rush, I do have other girls I wrote recs for and know very well. So I just had the craziest thing happen with a pnm that suicided.

PNM loves house A, B,C,D. She goes to all their parties, but loses A,B and C when the invites for pref night come. She goes to D, E, and F but suicided D last night.
So she's waiting for the call that she lost D or planning to go to Bid Day pick up.
She gets a call, she didn't match and did not get house D, but House A who she did not pref (because she was cut) has extended her a bid.
Here is where I'm confused...House A is a highly selective house that cut drastically throughout rush. Yes, she would love to be in house A, she loved them from the beginning. What happened? Was this where RFM made some of the houses cut too drastically and they didn't make quota? I've never seen this happen before and not with this particular house. My pnm is thrilled and really confused, as am I, so that is why she knows as she had to go to the office and fill something out.

Hooray for a happy ending!

[AZTheta]

Originally Posted by HQWest

Granted this would be on a chapter by chapter based requirement - but chapters have a grade requirement to initiate, too.

Gosh, that is surprising. How would that work? Virtually every chapter that I'm familiar with (at Arizona and elsewhere) initiates within six-eight weeks of pledging/bid acceptance, and AFAIK, there's no 6-8 week quarter system or semester system. So freshmen new members are initiated prior to ever receiving any college grades. Granted, there may be a chapter here and there that delays initiation until after a quarter or semester is completed...and maybe someone on GC can comment on that.

The only grade requirement I'm aware of is that pertaining to eligibility for recruitment.

[HQWest]

Originally Posted by AzTheta

Gosh, that is surprising. How would that work? Virtually every chapter that I'm familiar with (at Arizona and elsewhere) initiates within six-eight weeks of pledging/bid acceptance, and AFAIK, there's no 6-8 week quarter system or semester system. So freshmen new members are initiated prior to ever receiving any college grades. Granted, there may be a chapter here and there that delays initiation until after a quarter or semester is completed...and maybe someone on GC can comment on that.

The only grade requirement I'm aware of is that pertaining to eligibility for recruitment.

The problem in this case is that she has a previous college GPA that is too low from that one summer class. Some would have to count her as having a college GPA - but too low to initiate. So panhellenic let her go through recruitment, but some chapters might be wary of giving her a bid. Its one more reason the system often favors freshmen.

[AXOrushadvisor]

Originally Posted by DG Illinois

What just happened?

So while I have been sharing about my niece's rush, I do have other girls I wrote recs for and know very well. So I just had the craziest thing happen with a pnm that suicided.

PNM loves house A, B,C,D. She goes to all their parties, but loses A,B and C when the invites for pref night come. She goes to D, E, and F but suicided D last night.
So she's waiting for the call that she lost D or planning to go to Bid Day pick up.
She gets a call, she didn't match and did not get house D, but House A who she did not pref (because she was cut) has extended her a bid.
Here is where I'm confused...House A is a highly selective house that cut drastically throughout rush. Yes, she would love to be in house A, she loved them from the beginning. What happened? Was this where RFM made some of the houses cut too drastically and they didn't make quota? I've never seen this happen before and not with this particular house. My pnm is thrilled and really confused, as am I, so that is why she knows as she had to go to the office and fill something out.

Your girl was picked up in a snap bid. Seems weird that this is now the 2nd big school that seems to have chapters not making quota using RFM. Interesting.

House A may be a very strong recruiting house. RFM is targeting a quota of say 50 so their releases all week reflect that number along with their statistical information from the last 3 years. RFM then ups quota say even 10 to 60 OR Chapter has a bad preference, but doesn't end up matching as many women and viola no quota for a strong Chapter. Weird, but true. I just lived it.

[CubbieBlue]

My rec girl is a new Delta Gamma!

[DG Illinois]

Thanks so much everyone for the info. It was wonderful for her because she was a double legacy and loved them and then did not receive an invite to pref.
To say her Mom and Grandma were over the moon would be an understatement.
Now I am just waiting to get the call or text from my niece!

[DG Illinois]

Originally Posted by CubbieBlue

My rec girl is a new Delta Gamma!

Love a DG ending!!!! I loved getting my sailor hat with my name on it...it was such a exciting time! I am waiting on pins and needles over her for my niece and the other 4 girls.

[AZTheta]

Originally Posted by HQWest

The problem in this case is that she has a previous college GPA that is too low from that one summer class. Some would have to count her as having a college GPA - but too low to initiate. So panhellenic let her go through recruitment, but some chapters might be wary of giving her a bid. Its one more reason the system often favors freshmen.

I am thinking of eligibility to receive a bid, not initiating - which comes at the end of the new member period. Are we talking of two different things? Because I'm still not following your reasoning. I stand by my explanation that for the vast majority of chapters, there is no GPA requirement to initiate. To pledge, yes, but not to initiate.

In the scenario presented up thread, in which taking a single college level course at a community college yielded a 2.0 GPA, the pnm wouldn't even be eligible to go through recruitment at my university. That is, if the GPA was counted, and not the units.

[DG Illinois]

Originally Posted by KDCat

Hooray for a happy ending!

Thanks so much! I cannot wait to talk with my niece, her best friend and the other girls. Now that rush is over, I can tell you my niece loved her pref night, but she said all the pnms at her party were raving about the party too so she was happy she loved all 3 so she didn't have to stress out too much!

[DG Illinois]

Originally Posted by AXOrushadvisor

Your girl was picked up in a snap bid. Seems weird that this is now the 2nd big school that seems to have chapters not making quota using RFM. Interesting.

House A may be a very strong recruiting house. RFM is targeting a quota of say 50 so their releases all week reflect that number along with their statistical information from the last 3 years. RFM then ups quota say even 10 to 60 OR Chapter has a bad preference, but doesn't end up matching as many women and viola no quota for a strong Chapter. Weird, but true. I just lived it.

I know, never in the years I was in school or writing recs have I ever heard a story like this. She was a double legacy to the house that cut her before pref party and then extended her a bid today.