2011 recruitment bits and pieces - Page 6

DubaiSis · #76 08-24-2011, 02:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Jill1228

Iowa recruitment starts this weekend. 716 PNMs

So as I guessed, their comment about "record" was a little overblown, but that's a great number!

Jill1228 · #77 08-24-2011, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by DubaiSis

So as I guessed, their comment about "record" was a little overblown, but that's a great number!

What comments? I missed those. I thought this was a record PNM year? I know last year's COB was double

ISUKappa · #78 08-24-2011, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by DubaiSis

So as I guessed, their comment about "record" was a little overblown, but that's a great number!

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Originally Posted by Jill1228

What comments? I missed those. I thought this was a record PNM year? I know last year's COB was double

I think the numbers were probably higher in the 80s and early 90s, before the University started having issues with Greek life. I'm sure this year is the highest number of PNMs they've seen in the last decade. They were only in the 500 to maybe 600 range the five years I advised in the 2000s.

DubaiSis · #79 08-24-2011, 01:04 PM

exactly. Sorry, you're supposed to know what I'm talking about without giving you any details! On the University of Iowa Sororities and Fraternities facebook page they made the mention of record registrations. Quotas were in the 40's and rushees were in the 700-900 range through the 1980's. For a variety of reasons (most of which I'm not privy to, but I have a few ideas) the Greek system at Iowa went into freefall for awhile. Then they started using RFM and it seems there was a whiplash that made it WORSE. But last year it seemed to work correctly. Iowa has even been doing a semi-structured informal for the last few (several?), and that would have been beyond bizarre when I was there.

I think the chapters would be happy with a real chapter total at 110 (where virtually all of the chapters are at total). When it was 120 they expanded twice within several years, but unfortunately neither made it in the long term. Plus, SDT left and AEPhi came in. I don't have any idea what that was about.

greekalum · #80 08-24-2011, 04:18 PM

Is it "air your disgruntlement with specific OU chapters" week in their paper?

http://oudaily.com/news/2011/aug/23/...p-self-apprec/

I wonder what the other side to the story is on this one- like why she didn't actually initiate at her first school?

scrapcat · #81 08-24-2011, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Jill1228

Iowa recruitment starts this weekend. 716 PNMs

I hope that bodes well for all the houses! I know my daughter is ready to go!

Jill1228 · #82 08-24-2011, 05:06 PM

Thanks hon! I'm pretty new to the Midwest. I was used to West Coast

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Originally Posted by DubaiSis

exactly. Sorry, you're supposed to know what I'm talking about without giving you any details! On the University of Iowa Sororities and Fraternities facebook page they made the mention of record registrations. Quotas were in the 40's and rushees were in the 700-900 range through the 1980's. For a variety of reasons (most of which I'm not privy to, but I have a few ideas) the Greek system at Iowa went into freefall for awhile. Then they started using RFM and it seems there was a whiplash that made it WORSE. But last year it seemed to work correctly. Iowa has even been doing a semi-structured informal for the last few (several?), and that would have been beyond bizarre when I was there.

I think the chapters would be happy with a real chapter total at 110 (where virtually all of the chapters are at total). When it was 120 they expanded twice within several years, but unfortunately neither made it in the long term. Plus, SDT left and AEPhi came in. I don't have any idea what that was about.

DeltaBetaBaby · #83 08-24-2011, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by greekalum

Is it "air your disgruntlement with specific OU chapters" week in their paper?

http://oudaily.com/news/2011/aug/23/...p-self-apprec/

I wonder what the other side to the story is on this one- like why she didn't actually initiate at her first school?

Many years ago, someone published an editorial like this in the Daily Illini. The Greeks subsequently put the DI out of business, forcing the University to step in and fund it. The OU Daily's editors would be wise to watch it.

AOII Angel · #84 08-24-2011, 07:43 PM

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Many years ago, someone published an editorial like this in the Daily Illini. The Greeks subsequently put the DI out of business, forcing the University to step in and fund it. The OU Daily's editors would be wise to watch it.

SMH. I'm so sure someone would have made that comment to her during recruitment. Whatevs. Yes, our NSU and OU chapters are very different. I'm sorry she didn't find a place at the AOII chapter at OU. If she had gotten initiated at NSU, she could have just transferred. Odd that they didn't initiate her.

FSUZeta · #85 08-24-2011, 07:58 PM

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SMH. I'm so sure someone would have made that comment to her during recruitment. Whatevs. Yes, our NSU and OU chapters are very different. I'm sorry she didn't find a place at the AOII chapter at OU. If she had gotten initiated at NSU, she could have just transferred. Odd that they didn't initiate her.

agreed! we definitely don't have the whole story on this one! i also find it fascinating that all the chapter but AOII dropped her after the first round, yet she focuses on AOII.

and you get suggestions for appropriate attire and choose to wear combat boots? puh-lease!

shirley1929 · #86 08-24-2011, 08:37 PM

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agreed! we definitely don't have the whole story on this one! i also find it fascinating that all the chapter but AOII dropped her after the first round, yet she focuses on AOII.

and you get suggestions for appropriate attire and choose to wear combat boots? puh-lease!

This whole thing (both the other article and this one) just makes me very sad for the OU Greek Community.

Katmandu · #87 08-24-2011, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by AOII Angel

If she had gotten initiated at NSU, she could have just transferred. Odd that they didn't initiate her.

Yea, I call bull on this article. She participated in formal recruitment in the fall, pledged AOPi, but by the fall of next year, had still not initiated? We know it wasn't a grade issue...hmmmm. Somethin' ain't right here, and it may be the author.

Of course, she IS right about one thing... everyone in sororities in the large Oklahoma schools is blonde and tan. No brunettes allowed. That's why I dyed my own hair, so I could pledge at OSU. We did allow light brown at Ok State, because we were a landgrant school, but that was as far as we were willing to bend.

33girl · #88 08-24-2011, 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by AOII Angel

SMH. I'm so sure someone would have made that comment to her during recruitment. Whatevs. Yes, our NSU and OU chapters are very different. I'm sorry she didn't find a place at the AOII chapter at OU. If she had gotten initiated at NSU, she could have just transferred. Odd that they didn't initiate her.

It sounds like they didn't initiate her because they knew she was transferring and didn't want her to be stuck at a chapter she may have not liked or wanted to affiliate into, and spend the rest of her college years unhappy. Which is an absolutely exceptionally nice and mature thing for them to do. I mean - they lost a person from their year's quota. They could have just said "hey, go ahead and initiate!" and what happened after she transferred was her problem. I know that your policy might be that you *can* transfer directly into the chapter, but I'm guessing they've had enough interaction with the OU chapter to know some of them wouldn't have fit in well there, either.

I would hope any sorority chapter who had a NM who realized she was in that position (imminent transfer) would give her the same option and consideration.

DeltaBetaBaby · #89 08-25-2011, 08:52 AM

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It sounds like they didn't initiate her because they knew she was transferring and didn't want her to be stuck at a chapter she may have not liked or wanted to affiliate into, and spend the rest of her college years unhappy. Which is an absolutely exceptionally nice and mature thing for them to do. I mean - they lost a person from their year's quota. They could have just said "hey, go ahead and initiate!" and what happened after she transferred was her problem. I know that your policy might be that you *can* transfer directly into the chapter, but I'm guessing they've had enough interaction with the OU chapter to know some of them wouldn't have fit in well there, either.

I would hope any sorority chapter who had a NM who realized she was in that position (imminent transfer) would give her the same option and consideration.

Still, the timing is weird...If it's fall recruitment and a six-week NM period, would you know you were transferring in October of the previous year?

angels&angles · #90 08-25-2011, 09:03 AM

I thought she was still in HS when she "pledged" the NSU group? So she may not have pledged at all, but rather been taken on as a kind of mascot?