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Old 08-21-2011, 09:39 AM
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Well my question is why aren't the restaurants adding a gratuity to the bill? A lot of these stars roll with 7 or 8 (or more) people on a tab - in many restaurants they add a gratuity for parties over 6. Add the gratuity and be done with it!
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Old 08-21-2011, 12:32 PM
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Another reason why this list is a tardparty? The Tiger Woods 'incident' apparently happened at a blackjack table ... where tipping $5 (total) to a server is normal, and tipping generally should NOT be expected to scale with the table max.

Why should he tip a server bringing free drinks more than $1/per (which would be what you would do at a $25 table) simply because he's playing $10k/hand?

Anybody who gambles on an even recreational basis knows that tipping is part of the rake - which also doesn't scale.
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Old 08-21-2011, 12:33 PM
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Well my question is why aren't the restaurants adding a gratuity to the bill? A lot of these stars roll with 7 or 8 (or more) people on a tab - in many restaurants they add a gratuity for parties over 6. Add the gratuity and be done with it!
I believe high-end restaurants consider this practice gauche.
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Old 08-21-2011, 01:15 PM
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I believe high-end restaurants consider this practice gauche.
Perhaps. It's more common in Europe, but really, it's way more work to take care of a table of 12 than it is to take care of 3 tables of 4.
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Old 08-21-2011, 09:34 PM
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Perhaps. It's more common in Europe, but really, it's way more work to take care of a table of 12 than it is to take care of 3 tables of 4.
I thought it was more common in mid-range American restaurants, since in many European countries, service charges are added to the cost of a meal. An extra two or three Euros can be added if the service is exceptional.

It strikes me as pretty funny that most of the "bad tippers" haven't had the best publicity of late...Tiger Woods? Others might just be the victims of beef...LeBron James? Did a disgruntled Cleveland native write this article? These articles are silly...as is most anything related to "The Frisky."
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Old 08-22-2011, 06:18 AM
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I thought it was more common in mid-range American restaurants, since in many European countries, service charges are added to the cost of a meal. An extra two or three Euros can be added if the service is exceptional.
Depends on what country you visit. In some counties servers just get paid more because tipping isn't the standard. But in most servers make the minimum and rely on tips. Adding a service charge is not "what they do in Europe" but what they do in some European counties and it's usually mentioned on the menu.

I make minimum wage, and work my ass off (in my personality,huge perfectionist) and it sucks that people rake up a huge bill and just leave a few euros.
In The Netherlands the minimum wage for servers is a bit higher than in the US, so the standard is 10% for average service, more if it was really good and nothing if it sucked or if you're cheap. Also, we have to share the tip with the other servers, the kitchen staff and the bartenders so I only get to keep about 5% of what I get tipped.

I usually tip 10-15% here (15-20% when back in the U.S.) and always compliment a server if the service was good, tell the manager when it was exceptional.

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One huge difference, I've noticed the Dutch only tip in Bars/Restaurants and maybe Hotels. Not for hairdressers/coatchecking/gasstation. First time I went to the salon here I tried to leave a tip but the came after me, thinking I forgot my money .

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Old 08-22-2011, 07:52 AM
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Depends on what country you visit. In some counties servers just get paid more because tipping isn't the standard. But in most servers make the minimum and rely on tips. Adding a service charge is not "what they do in Europe" but what they do in some European counties and it's usually mentioned on the menu.

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Isn't that what I said..."in some European countries?"

I tend to tip more than 15% because I rarely go to sit-down restaurants and when I do, it's usually for special occasions or large groups. Also, I would really prefer to avoid certain stereotypes about some groups not tipping...
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Old 08-22-2011, 07:59 AM
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Isn't that what I said..."in some European countries?"
I know you did, just adding my experience with tipping in Europe.

I've travelled most of the continent and it's very confusing. In some countries adding a service charge on top of the bill is mandatory, in some service is included in the price of the food.
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Old 08-22-2011, 09:49 AM
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Also, I would really prefer to avoid certain stereotypes about some groups not tipping...
LOL. Stereotypes persist regardless of what some people do. You will simply be considered an exception to the "Blacks don't tip" rule.

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And I stand by 15% minimum.

Like I said, the people most passionate about this are the ones that work it.

I don't believe in being cheap, but I also don't believe in being bullied to satisfy your personal view of what should and should not be.
Ditto!

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