University of Texas daughter's *actual* recruitment '11

[ellebud]

I did read the thread. I don't get your point. My point was that people threatened the poster and her daughter indirectly by saying that they were liars. They engaged in the best of McCarthyism. If someone says something indiscreet like, "oh, my daughter HATED the Abba Zabbas because they had a tacky skit and the third girl from the left!" I chalk it up to not filtering. IF it was my daughter who was the third girl I might be hurt (I wouldn't) but I wouldn't go after the poster. Things don't get "heated" when you go after someone because you don't like their unfiltered remarks about a sorority, organization...this got dirty.

Bad manners are just that. There is no justification to go after someone's kid by insinuation of lying, not naming names but saying just enough to identify a pmn. As I said in translation thread...The posters were playing with fire. They hurt someone because they could, from afar, and as chicken**** as you can get.

And I would add to those of you who might want to repeat this scenario: I don't know Wary, but she is a class act. Nothing on the internet is untraceable. And since, as a non public figure, she could have gone after some of the posters (and their houses if they are current actives) legally (slander and libel)...and didn't...you might run into someone who might not be so kind to the posters (Wranger.Darlin and Regina George) the next time.

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by ellebud

I did read the thread. I don't get your point.

My point was that people advised her (initially without rudeness or flaming) that it was in her daughter's best interest that she not post the Spirit Clubs recruitment story until after NPC recruitment so that there would be no chance of anything affecting daughter's recruitment. For the most part, the rudeness came after Wary ignored this advice and was rude herself.

Originally Posted by FSUZeta

what you perceived as a warning, i interpreted as a threat.

I get that, and I can understand in some ways why, but in context I just don't think it's accurate -- not when the "warning/threat" started out: "For her sake, please do it only after she goes through sorority recruitment." and "It will make her daughter easily identifiable during recruitment and that isn't a smart thing to do."

[Shellfish]

In looking at the links in MysticCat's 1:59 post, I noticed that the poster Texas Darling is banned. Is it because of this post?

I'm not sure who is worse, CAAtexas or Wary.

It is NOT acceptable to say spirit groups have certain reputations and there are no "dismal" sororities at Texas.

Have some class.

All of her other posts are reasonable and informative, and her disapproval of the "dismal" comment was strongly worded but in the spirit of Panhellenism. I suspect that she was accidentally swept up in the banning of Wrangler.Darlin.

[ellebud]

No, the posts that were horrible had to do with I or we know something about someone who is going through recruitment at Texas who are liars! (notice the posts no longer exist). They are claiming blah blah....Then there was a link to something innocuous that Wary said, insinuating but not saying that she was a liar. Then she concluded another (now deleted post) with a threat of "we took care of it."

The above posted quote is NOT what I am referring to...the inflammatory posts have been deleted. But not before they did damage.

[Eightisgreat]

Wary...you know hugs go all around. I am saddened to see women, who could possibly share letters with me, go on a death attack of an innocent person. This was simply a campaign of one upsmanship. Like Ellebud said...Karma...the wonderful circular force it is, has a path, and we know who is in it. It is un-Panhellenic as you can get. Please let Zoe know we are thinking of her.

[Ladybugmom]

Originally Posted by Eightisgreat

Wary...you know hugs go all around. I am saddened to see women, who could possibly share letters with me, go on a death attack of an innocent person. This was simply a campaign of one upsmanship. Like Ellebud said...Karma...the wonderful circular force it is, has a path, and we know who is in it. It is un-Panhellenic as you can get. Please let Zoe know we are thinking of her.

I couldn't have said it better!! You and Zoe have handled this with class. UT is a wonderful campus that offers it's students many opportunities to get involved. I know it is cliche..but sometimes things happen for a reason, even if we don't always understand why..
Zoe will continue to sparkle and shine with whatever she chooses to do!

[ellebud]

Benzgirl: I know that you were not part of the campaign. I was reply to what you said right above. I'm sorry if you thought that I thought you were one of the the people who posted in a vile way.

[FSUZeta]

if i do, i will let you know.

[arrowlady]

Wary- I am sorry that your daughter's recruitment did not end up with bid. I admire the way she has picked herself up and moved on so quickly! I

[ellebud]

Note: a warning is...if you wear a skirt that is too short you may be perceived in the wrong way.

A threat is: We know who you are. We have alerted people in power and they are taking care of it.

People can "advise" others of many things. Whether the advice is taken does and should not lead to abusive behavior. You can ignore the thread(s) and the person. You can get popcorn and watch. But to say that amorphous people are out that who know and we are turning her in.........no, its a threat....libel.....slander. It would be cya time.

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by ellebud

A threat is: We know who you are. We have alerted people in power and they are taking care of it.

The only posts I saw were the "this could harm your chances" variety. If there were posts like you describe, I readily admit that I didn't see them and readily agree they are way out of line.

Meanwhile, clean out your PM box a little please.

[srmom]

Yowza, you go away for a while and all hell breaks loose!! Wary, good to hear your daughter is doing well. UT is a blast and good for her that she is involved and plugged in to the campus, whether in Greek life or not.

[ellebud]

The posts that I referred to were deleted by the moderators, I believe. You can see some responses from me that look a bit out of left field.

My pm box should work, but I'll check it.

You were right...cleaned out old messages. I'm sorry.

[AOII Angel]

I honestly never saw any direct threats on that thread. I'm sorry your daughter didn't find a chapter to join, Wary. Whether or not the shenanigans on GC had anything to do with it are open for debate. I think the take home lesson is don't put stuff out there that you don't want coming back at you. I've written back and forth with Wary. I don't think she meant to be offensive with her posts, but after the fact, she realized that it wasn't the best thing to post. You live and you learn.

[als463]

Originally Posted by AOII Angel

I honestly never saw any direct threats on that thread. I'm sorry your daughter didn't find a chapter to join, Wary. Whether or not the shenanigans on GC had anything to do with it are open for debate. I think the take home lesson is don't but stuff out there that you don't want coming back at you. I've written back in forth with Wary. I don't think she meant to be offensive with her posts, but after the fact, she realized that it wasn't the best thing to post. You live and you learn.

I didn't really put much thought/ effort into the thread that Wary started but, it's really a shame that her lack of discretion could have hurt her daughter's chances. If that's the case--shame on anyone trying to live vicariously through their child by putting her beliefs/ thoughts out in cyberspace DURING recruitment.

Like I said, I didn't really pay much attention to who said what (as I don't generally get into recruitment threads too often) but, this is another reason why people should wait until AFTER recruitment before they feel the need to post about their recruitment experience. Once again, why does someone's mother have to come on GC and post someone else's (her daughter's) recruitment story?