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[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by Munchkin03

Now it's so easy to get most places (maybe not cheap, but easy) that distance really isn't an issue anymore. I never felt like I couldn't get home if I *needed* to, and I rarely ever wanted to do so.

I feel old now. Thanks.

[Munchkin03]

Originally Posted by MysticCat

I feel old now. Thanks.

It's okay. I was only born a couple of years after the airlines were deregulated, so I do not know of this world where it once cost thousands of dollars to fly to SF from NYC!

[TriDeltaSallie]

What about safety issues? Would you let your daughter attend a school in an area that is especially prone to crime?

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by TriDeltaSallie

What about safety issues? Would you let your daughter attend a school in an area that is especially prone to crime?

Definitely.

I assume you mean "high crime rate."

Many colleges and universities are in the heart of cities. There is no massive gate to separate the campus environment from the city environment. That's a good thing. My children are raised to understand that most crimes are not random but are instead based on people's routine activities. Be smart, whether you are a college student or not, and you reduce the likelihood of person and property victimization.

[Munchkin03]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

Definitely.

I assume you mean "high crime rate."

Many colleges and universities are in the heart of cities. There is no massive gate to separate the campus environment from the city environment. That's a good thing. My children are raised to understand that most crimes are not random but are instead based on people's routine activities. Be smart, whether you are a college student or not, and you reduce the likelihood of person and property victimization.

Also...how bad are most college towns really? Even those in the core of a city usually have excellent police/security coverage. None of my friends at Columbia or Penn got robbed/mugged on campus, and those schools are in the "roughest" parts of their respective cities.

[als463]

Originally Posted by Munchkin03

Also...how bad are most college towns really? Even those in the core of a city usually have excellent police/security coverage. None of my friends at Columbia or Penn got robbed/mugged on campus, and those schools are in the "roughest" parts of their respective cities.

Actually, I almost went to Temple University. The week or so before I was supposed to start school, someone was stabbed ON the campus! After that, I immediately decided to go to Penn State instead. I guess it all worked out.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by Munchkin03

Also...how bad are most college towns really? Even those in the core of a city usually have excellent police/security coverage. None of my friends at Columbia or Penn got robbed/mugged on campus, and those schools are in the "roughest" parts of their respective cities.

The average person in a high crime area will not be victimized. That goes for on campus and off campus.

There are colleges/universities in cities with really high crime rates. At one particular university, someone was shot beside my friend's car one night and her car was broken into the next night. I don't know what the person who got shot was doing but they probably knew the offender; and my friend's car got broken into because she left some items in view. Again, not random so most people will be fine if they are careful and attentive.

As for excellent police coverage, sometimes, but usually not and it really isn't up to campus police other than creating the appearance of safety. Plus, campus police service the campus only. They generally don't cover what happens an inch from the campus border; and they don't fully cover most things that happen on campus (i.e. students who are mugged walking from their car to their door can go to campus police but it doesn't stop there). Lastly, not every college/university has campus police. They have campus security that don't carry weapons and are ineffective without the city police. That's why students have to be observant and smart.

With that said, I survived it, my significant other survived it, and our child will most likely survive it.

[thetaj]

Originally Posted by TriDeltaSallie

What about safety issues? Would you let your daughter attend a school in an area that is especially prone to crime?

I think I would, if she really wanted to. My only objection stems from my sister's experience as a transfer student to UMiami. She of course didn't get on-campus housing and ended up renting a small house in Coral Gables with three grad studends. She was 20, they were around 24, they went out all night and left her alone in the house listening to gunshots all night. She transferred back to her original school and was in love with it But my dad has maaaajor beef with Miami (the city) now, and I do understand that.

[dekeguy]

When my sister was an undergrad and living in her first apartment she kept her 20 bore shotgun under her bed and her .22 S&W in her purse along with her carry permit. She was a first class shot and believed in the concept that when there is one to be buried and one to be tried, "Not guilty, your Honor" I asked her why a .22 cal? She replied that a .22LR had more penetrating power than anything shy of a .45. I learned early not to piss off my sister.
So much for questionable neighborhoods.

[thetaj]

Originally Posted by dekeguy

When my sister was an undergrad and living in her first apartment she kept her 20 bore shotgun under her bed and her .22 S&W in her purse along with her carry permit. She was a first class shot and believed in the concept that when there is one to be buried and one to be tried, "Not guilty, your Honor" I asked her why a .22 cal? She replied that a .22LR had more penetrating power than anything shy of a .45. I learned early not to piss off my sister.
So much for questionable neighborhoods.

I've got a Model 88 Maverick in my closet waiting to give anyone who breaks in a face full of buckshot. No permit to carry though, not yet anyways. My neighborhood isn't too bad but my city is. I think my sister would have been a lot happier in Miami if she'd had a gun, but she's not comfortable with that, which is too bad.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by thetaj

I've got a Model 88 Maverick in my closet waiting to give anyone who breaks in a face full of buckshot. No permit to carry though, not yet anyways. My neighborhood isn't too bad but my city is. I think my sister would have been a lot happier in Miami if she'd had a gun, but she's not comfortable with that, which is too bad.

Keep in mind that it being in your closet doesn't mean you're ready to use it. Also remain familiar with the laws regarding breaking faces full of buckshot.

Be careful with who you announce this gun to. People who boast of gun possession sometimes either have their gun stolen or physically used against them. Remember that the difference between you and the majority of motivated offenders is that THEY are the motivated offenders who are more likely than you to be fully prepared/willing to use that gun.

[KSUViolet06]

Originally Posted by TriDeltaSallie

What about safety issues? Would you let your daughter attend a school in an area that is especially prone to crime?

Yep. I still would.

You miss out on a lot if you avoid larger cities and schools in such cities for fear of OMGTEHCRIMEYOUGONNAGETRAPED.

[TSteven]

Originally Posted by AOIIalum

That's for sure. If it was MY choice, my very hypothetical daughter wouldn't even step foot to visit dUKe, UNC, Louisville, LSU or Florida.

I think I may nominate you for Mother of the Year! Obvious, you only have the best interest of your hypothetical daughter at heart.

Originally Posted by AOII Angel

Oh the good ole days for both of those!

October 1st will be here before you know it.

[*winter*]

Dangerous...I think as a mom it would be hard...but yes. Hopefully if/when I have kids they will be street-smart. My poor niece went straight from the suburbs to a major city for college! But she is doing great.

I worked at the Women's Center while at a "safe" rural campus...rapes happen on ALL campuses. Stranger, date rape, drugging, etc. Women just have to be taught to be REALLY careful!

I'm (hopefully) going to grad school in a major (dangerous) city next year. I better get my head out of my @ss because I've been living with cattle for neighbors for too long :/ I went to visit the city in May and felt soooooo clueless!

[dukemama]

UNC Chapel Hill (as if you couldn't guess).

Any of the other UNC schools I could live with, but UNC-CH is grounds for disinheritance.