Casey Anthony Trial

[agzg]

Originally Posted by katydidKD

Dude im not mad im just waiting for DrPhil's novel on how this has everything to do with race/class/gender

If you're refusing to see the glaring race/class/gender issues with this case, and the media's portrayal for it, I feel sorry for you. It must be hard to see pretty sunsets with all that wool over your eyes.

[katydidKD]

Originally Posted by agzg

If you're refusing to see the glaring race/class/gender issues with this case, and the media's portrayal for it, I feel sorry for you. It must be hard to see pretty sunsets with all that wool over your eyes.

Oh, I totally see it. But DrPhil brings it into just about every thread like clockwork.

[agzg]

Originally Posted by katydidKD

Oh, I totally see it. But DrPhil brings it into just about every thread like clockwork.

It was already in the thread before DrPhil got here. Stop being such a drama queen. You're not even amusing.

[DrPhil]

Uh...dumb bitch really needs to learn how to read if she's going to be up my ass and pretend that she has read my every post over the years.

I typically don't call people racist, classist, or sexist. I can't recall ever doing that because it is a rarity. I don't give a shit about people. I examine constructs and overarching dynamics that exist above and beyond what people are thinking and saying/doing. That's what I give a shit about. If katydumbass is going to give a shit about me, she needs to be smarter about it.

[katydidKD]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

Uh...dumb bitch really needs to learn how to read if she's going to be up my ass and pretend that she has read my every post over the years.

I typically don't call people racist, classist, or sexist. I can't recall ever doing that because it is a rarity. I don't give a shit about people. I examine constructs and overarching dynamics that exist above and beyond what people are thinking and saying/doing. That's what I give a shit about. If katydumbass is going to give a shit about me, she needs to be smarter about it.

Did I say that you call people racist/sexist/classist or did i say you go on a rampage when they phrase something racist/sexist/classist. Learn how to read.

[knight_shadow]

Originally Posted by katydidKD

Did I say that you call people racist/sexist/classist or did i say you go on a rampage when they phrase something racist/sexist/classist. Learn how to read.

Is this going to be your signature style? Rolling your eyes at other posters and their styles because you're above it?

/i'm only here because my name was typed in this thread

[agzg]

Originally Posted by knight_shadow

Is this going to be your signature style? Rolling your eyes at other posters and their styles because you're above it?

/i'm only here because my name was typed in this thread

You set yourself up on Google Alerts, didn't you?

[knight_shadow]

Originally Posted by agzg

You set yourself up on Google Alerts, didn't you?

No. I am not particularly interested in this case, so I will glance at this thread every once in a while. I was scrolling and saw an underscore, so that made me take notice lol

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by katydidKD

Did I say that you call people racist/sexist/classist or did i say you go on a rampage when they phrase something racist/sexist/classist.

Again, you're too stupid to understand my posts and need to stop reading them.

Originally Posted by katydidKD

Learn how to read.

This is funny.

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by BetteDavisEyes

One of my friends just posted on her status that as a tribute & remembrance of Caylee, we should all turn on our porch lights at 9pm.

You mean, about when it gets dark enough to turn on porch lights? Like, the time many automatic lights go on, and people flip them on because they're waiting for someone to get home?

That's not a memorial, that's slacktivism at its finest.

Originally Posted by christiangirl

iLost. #wrongthread

I just want to see that little girl's death vindicated. I pray that there is an appeal and/or the investigation continues.

I don't really think one's death can be 'vindicated.' She was murdered. There's no vindication, not even in finding, convicting and possibly killing the murderer. Nothing 'helps' the victim here in any way unless one has a moral system that only results in heaven for those whose murderers are convicted.

And again we're back to, why do we care about THIS child, and not the other (statistically) three who were murdered on the same date?

Originally Posted by violetpretty

Even though Casey Anthony slipped through the cracks, I'm glad I live in a country where a person is innocent until proven guilty. Except if you live in West Memphis, Arkansas.

Innocent people do not lie to police. Accidents are not made to look like murders. Unfortunately, common sense is not proof of guilt in a court of law.

Innocent people lie to the police all the time. Particularly if you're only referring to the crime being investigated at the time. They might be guilty of gods know what else, or be hiding something embarrassing that isn't a crime at all.

@DrPhil, I'm actually more interested in how it can be changed, or how it should be changed. I think that the 'why' we only see young, pretty, well off, dramatic/sideshowy missing white girls or *gasp* white girls who are murderers while in a foreign country or the like has been pretty well established to anyone who bothers to educate themselves. I'm not so sure on what can be DONE about it, though. Which cases need media attention to help solve them and which don't? And how do we as the viewing public make changes?

[HannahXO]

Originally Posted by Drolefille

And again we're back to, why do we care about THIS child, and not the other (statistically) three who were murdered on the same date?

While I agree that race/class issues play a part in all of this, there is a simpler explanation: there was a suspect, with a clear motive, on trial. It was not a perfect case, so there was a lot of suspense involved. She had a chance of being caught. Those three other children? Who knows if there was even a suspect. Or conversely, it was a cut-and-dry conviction with no drama. This was interesting to the public because there was a 50-50 chance of someone going to jail for this little girl's murder. Only 50-50, no more, no less. (OK not technically if you get into the statistical analysis, but the simplified version is that there were 2 possible outcomes- conviction or acquittal.)

Will any kind of investigation continue? While I personally believe Casey is veryyy guilty, I can see how there was not enough evidence to convict her. And while she cannot be tried again, will there be any investigation to absolutely rule out other suspects? If Casey is innocent (actually innocent, not just "not guilty") then someone who killed this child is walking free. How does the justice system handle that?

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by katydidKD

Alleged sexual abuse*

That's not how it works. Go fuck yourself.

Originally Posted by HannahXO

While I agree that race/class issues play a part in all of this, there is a simpler explanation: there was a suspect, with a clear motive, on trial. It was not a perfect case, so there was a lot of suspense involved. She had a chance of being caught. Those three other children? Who knows if there was even a suspect. Or conversely, it was a cut-and-dry conviction with no drama. This was interesting to the public because there was a 50-50 chance of someone going to jail for this little girl's murder. Only 50-50, no more, no less. (OK not technically if you get into the statistical analysis, but the simplified version is that there were 2 possible outcomes- conviction or acquittal.)

But we cared before there was a trial. And the same biases affect media coverage of investigations, and thus the quality and thoroughness of the investigations. The fact that 'drama' is how we decide what we care about is not particularly more promising. And we don't cover cases involving minorities the same way because it's not dramatic... why? Because of the bigotry of low/shitty expectations?

I still come down to what do WE as the viewers do about it? Stop watching Nancy Grace and the like might be something, but what else?

Will any kind of investigation continue? While I personally believe Casey is veryyy guilty, I can see how there was not enough evidence to convict her. And while she cannot be tried again, will there be any investigation to absolutely rule out other suspects? If Casey is innocent (actually innocent, not just "not guilty") then someone who killed this child is walking free. How does the justice system handle that?

If they don't have any other suspects, or at least strong suspects, then no, they probably won't do anything unless they think they can convict her for something else (or someone else for accessory or something). The justice system did its job, the prosecutors apparently didn't, but the system did.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by Drolefille

That's not how it works. Go fuck yourself.

As it pertains to the case, they were accusations of sexual abuse.

As it pertains to her overall condition and circumstances, completely different.

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

As it pertains to the case, they were accusations of sexual abuse.

As it pertains to her overall condition and circumstances, completely different.

Alleged being only used in the court system, unless someone's on trial for the abuse it's not considered 'alleged.' It seemed that it was Casey's abuse, not her allegedly abusing her child, that was referring to, yes? (See what I did there?)

I was listening to an interesting NPR segment on rape victims in the justice system and one of the prosecutors made that pretty clear and I'm rather fond of the definition.

[katydidKD]

Originally Posted by Drolefille

That's not how it works. Go fuck yourself.

Yeah, actually it is. Thats why Baez was ordered to not mention it in closing.