Mystery New Members on Bid Day

[33girl]

Originally Posted by Splash

I understand you completely. Her getting a bid IS a mistake. I know that. I understand the chapter did not vote to extend her a bid. I get that. You said she shouldn't get a bid because she didn't fit the requirements, not because she wasn't voted upon. I agree with the first part, and not the second part in regards to this situation.

I was using the word "requirements" to avoid getting too precise/technical about MS. Since you STILL don't get it, I'll spell it out: a PNM receiving a certain minimum score during MS is a REQUIREMENT to receive a bid.

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by 33girl

I was using the word "requirements" to avoid getting too precise/technical about MS. Since you STILL don't get it, I'll spell it out: a PNM receiving a certain minimum score during MS is a REQUIREMENT to receive a bid.

The bid was received.
There's your problem. Chapters are responsible for policing their bidlist, but once it is sent, it is considered accurate. There are numerous reasons for why this is a necessary way to handle things, there are not takebacks, redos, whoopsydaisies, or my bads.

Her name's on the bidlist, congratulations you have a marvelous new member.

[33girl]

Originally Posted by Drolefille

The bid was received.
There's your problem. Chapters are responsible for policing their bidlist, but once it is sent, it is considered accurate. There are numerous reasons for why this is a necessary way to handle things, there are not takebacks, redos, whoopsydaisies, or my bads.

Her name's on the bidlist, congratulations you have a marvelous new member.

Yes, unfortunately, true, unless you want to completely show your ass as to how you pick your members and I think nationals would rather take a pledge class full of nastyass honey badgers than do that. That's why I think everyone should get a gander at it before it goes to the GA/Greek life office. Obviously we are seeing that all the different orgs (and most likely, different chapters within the orgs) have VERY differing degrees of responsibility conferred upon rush chairs or advisors.

[Splash]

And mistakes occur. You're preaching the rules. Everyone knows the rules. When there are mystery members, likely something has gone awry. Technically she should not have gotten the bid. We know this. That is because of what you're saying. She wasn't voted to receive a bid. Yes, this is true. But then a mistake happens and she gets one. I'm saying if the only requirement she didn't meet was not being voted to receive a bid, then maybe this can slide. To be clear, this is what I mean when I was referring to your blandly inoffensive comment.

[Splash]

Another KD- Question. What if they didn't mind? What if upon seeing her on the bid list they said: Oh, I was sad we had to release her due to RFM or whatever, but cool, we got her!

Would you still say no bid, because she was originally voted not to receive one?

JW, something I was thinking about