Osama Bin Laden Dead

[AGDee]

Originally Posted by DeltaBetaBaby

So you honestly believe that we are safer today than we were a week ago?

We have, at long last, proven that if you go after us, we will go after you and we will not quit until we succeed. Sometimes that message is an important one to send.

Does that make us safer? It is the core of a solid defense strategy. If people believe that they can attack us without consequence, then they will be more likely to attack us. We would be seen as weak in the eyes of many. Being seen as strong does make us safer.

[DeltaBetaBaby]

Originally Posted by AlphaFrog

I know this wasn't directed at me, but we were most definitely safer a week ago than we are today.

I agree. Which is why I don't believe that any of the celebration is about anything but vengeance.

Originally Posted by AGDee

We have, at long last, proven that if you go after us, we will go after you and we will not quit until we succeed.

We have most assuredly not succeeded in the "War on Terror".

[IrishLake]

Originally Posted by DeltaBetaBaby

I agree. Which is why I don't believe that any of the celebration is about anything but vengeance.



We have most assuredly not succeeded in the "War on Terror".

There is no problem with celebrating Justice. There's a difference between justice as a punishment and a means to preventing OBL planned future attacks. You know there would have been more with him acting as the mastermind.

Nope, we haven't succeeded, and I'm not sure we ever will. I think we will never see the end of the War on Terror. However a major battle was won over 24 hours ago. That is something to be proud of. Proud of our service men and women, and proud of our President who said "DO IT" without letting Pakistan even know. The War on Terror would not be needed were it not for extremists. It's a proactive offense in order to prevent future 9/11-like events. Should we sit back on our haunches and do nothing? I think not.

[AOII Angel]

Originally Posted by IrishLake

There is no problem with celebrating Justice. There's a difference between justice as a punishment and a means to preventing OBL planned future attacks. You know there would have been more with him acting as the mastermind.

Nope, we haven't succeeded, and I'm not sure we ever will. I think we will never see the end of the War on Terror. However a major battle was won over 24 hours ago. That is something to be proud of. Proud of our service men and women, and proud of our President who said "DO IT" without letting Pakistan even know. The War on Terror would not be needed were it not for extremists. It's a proactive offense in order to prevent future 9/11-like events. Should we sit back on our haunches and do nothing? I think not.

Let's put this on a smaller level. Imagine seeing the family members of a murder victim leaving the death chamber partying and chanting "USA, USA." It's just not done and is a little crass. As much as this is a part of a war, this WAS a man's life. He was a terrorist, but celebrating a man's death like it's a party lowers our social mores quite a bit.

[txAOII_15]

Originally Posted by AOII Angel

Let's put this on a smaller level. Imagine seeing the family members of a murder victim leaving the death chamber partying and chanting "USA, USA." It's just not done and is a little crass. As much as this is a part of a war, this WAS a man's life. He was a terrorist, but celebrating a man's death like it's a party lowers our social mores quite a bit.

i wholeheartedly agree with you AOII_Angel. celebrating any person's death under any circumstances is crass. while patriotism is a wonderful thing, lets also not forget the other side of the story. yes, september 11 was a terrible tragedy and my heart goes but to the thousands of people affected by it, but it pales in comparison to past us involvement in situations abroad that have violated human rights and have taken the lives of countless numbers of people. an eye for an eye is not the way to show superiority, but rather just sinks us morally. while im glad that the world as a whole is a safer place with one less extremist running around spewing hateful propaganda, it should not mean that we take it upon ourselves to celebrate how "blessed" we are as a nation by god and exclude the billions of other people that happen to share our planet.

[rhoyaltempest]

Originally Posted by AOII Angel

Let's put this on a smaller level. Imagine seeing the family members of a murder victim leaving the death chamber partying and chanting "USA, USA." It's just not done and is a little crass. As much as this is a part of a war, this WAS a man's life. He was a terrorist, but celebrating a man's death like it's a party lowers our social mores quite a bit.

I get what you're saying but this man's terror goes back to the 80's, maybe even before that and has impacted the world. I think most people are celebrating the end of his reign of terror, not specifically the loss of human life. When the families of rape and murder victims "celebrate" the death of the rapists and murderers, we understand completely.

[knight_shadow]

Originally Posted by rhoyaltempest

I think most people are celebrating the end of his reign of terror, not specifically the loss of human life.

Yep. This is what I was saying earlier.

[AGDee]

Originally Posted by DeltaBetaBaby

We have most assuredly not succeeded in the "War on Terror".

I've yet to hear anybody make that claim. If anything, we can expect an insurgence in terror activity. That doesn't mean that, in the long run, this was not a strategic and good move. I think it's unfortunate that we didn't take him alive, but getting him was important politically and militarily.

And to AOPi Angel, Thousands of people have lost their lives across 3 different decades because of this man, not just Americans but people from all over the world. Comparing his death to a solitary murderer who receives the death penalty is apples and oranges in my book, and I'm vehemently against the death penalty.