Osama Bin Laden Dead

[KKGCaroline]

Originally Posted by PiKA2001

I can't find anything online yet but according to CNN radio reports Bin Ladens body has already been buried....at sea.....Hmmmm.

I'm a little distrusting of the "We shot him and then buried him at sea" quote" too, you would have seriously thought that DNA tests would have been taken (surely it takes more than a few hours?) and photo's would have been released showing the world that it was definately bin laden and that he was definately dead.
Not that i'm being at all anti-usa/pro-terrorists, but really, i just want to see the proof.

[PiKA2001]

Originally Posted by moe.ron

It's a good strategic move. Imagine how huge his funeral would've been if it was done normally. It'll be a huge propoganda opportunity for Al-Qaeda.

I don't think so. No one important showed up to the funerals of other top Al Qaeda or Taliban officials killed by U.S. forces because they know we're watching. Al-Qaeda doesn't need a funeral to make a martyr out of Osama either.

Originally Posted by KKGCaroline

I'm a little distrusting of the "We shot him and then buried him at sea" quote" too, you would have seriously thought that DNA tests would have been taken (surely it takes more than a few hours?) and photo's would have been released showing the world that it was definately bin laden and that he was definately dead.
Not that i'm being at all anti-usa/pro-terrorists, but really, i just want to see the proof.

I've been watching this unfold all night via the Internet ( both mainstream and alternative news sites) and the conspiracy theories started blowing up after it was announced his body was dumped into the ocean. Not surprising at all considering he was the most wanted man in the world and we dumped his body somewhere that could never be found only one hour after announcing we had the body in custody. I know It sounds barbaric but I think we should have paraded it around for at least a day or two.

And a lot of people are echoing your "need for proof".

Some interesting rumors that sprung up over the night.
- Osama was shot in the head at close range making some people suggest he pulled a Hitler and killed himself when special forces stormed his compound. Apparently he also had standing orders with his bodyguards that they were to kill him before allowing him to be captured by U.S. Forces

- Osama's been dead and in U.S. custody for months/years now and if the body was released it would have easily been noticed due to decomposition.

- It's all BS and he's still alive.

- The reason for the late night announcement was that a soldier who was part of the raid tweeted about the death of Osama Bin Laden, forcing Obama's speech last night.

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by KKGCaroline

I'm a little distrusting of the "We shot him and then buried him at sea" quote" too, you would have seriously thought that DNA tests would have been taken (surely it takes more than a few hours?) and photo's would have been released showing the world that it was definately bin laden and that he was definately dead.
Not that i'm being at all anti-usa/pro-terrorists, but really, i just want to see the proof.

Again, we should demand to see the long form death certificate. You are right. Serious concerns are serious.

[AlphaFrog]

I'm a little about people giving actual credit for this to Obama. He happened to be dealt a royal flush, nothing was really of his own doing.

Either way, I'm also a little squicked out by people celebrating his death. Even my Pastor's wife was Facebooking about it. She was proud because apparently it was the Navy that took him out, and her.son is currently enrolled at Annapolis.

Also, my Pastor had coincidentally (or not so much when you consider the Holy Spirit) chosen yesterday for a sermon on the Revelation/end-times. Interesting stuff, especially when he taught on the Muslim version.

[Ghostwriter]

Originally Posted by AlphaFrog

I'm a little about people giving actual credit for this to Obama. He happened to be dealt a royal flush, nothing was really of his own doing.

I know there is a little level of sarcasm with your post but I will give the President his due (even as I am a firm opponent of his policies). He made the correct decision and was in command of the groups who organized this. Way to go President Obama and his team!

On the DNA questions it is my understanding that they are performing tests and an autopsy may have been performed before burial. Also, I believe there will be pics leaking out eventually. He is definitely dead. For the President to come out on TV and make an announcement that was not verified would be political suicide.

As a great statesman once said "Boom! Winning!

[DeltaBetaBaby]

Originally Posted by AlphaFrog

Either way, I'm also a little squicked out by people celebrating his death.

As you should be. The level of joyful celebration throughout the country misses the bigger picture and is, quite frankly, a little embarrassing.

[AOII Angel]

Originally Posted by DeltaBetaBaby

As you should be. The level of joyful celebration throughout the country misses the bigger picture and is, quite frankly, a little embarrassing.

I frankly have to agree with both of you. It makes me think of crowds in the middle East doing the same that make us cringe. Apparently we are unable to see the parallels.

[Ghostwriter]

Originally Posted by DeltaBetaBaby

As you should be. The level of joyful celebration throughout the country misses the bigger picture and is, quite frankly, a little embarrassing.

Sorry, but I disagree completely.

This is a definite milestone in our war on terror. This rivals the fall of the Axis powers in WW II in importance to the American psyche. Is the "war on terror" over? No. But we have taken a huge step and a message has been sent. You can run and you can hide but not forever.

A mass murderer is dead, celebrations are in order?

[DeltaBetaBaby]

Originally Posted by Ghostwriter

Sorry, but I disagree completely.

This is a definite milestone in our war on terror. This rivals the fall of the Axis powers in WW II in importance to the American psyche. Is the "war on terror" over? No. But we have taken a huge step and a message has been sent. You can run and you can hide but not forever.

A mass murderer is dead, celebrations are in order?

So you honestly believe that we are safer today than we were a week ago?

[AlphaFrog]

Originally Posted by DeltaBetaBaby

So you honestly believe that we are safer today than we were a week ago?

I know this wasn't directed at me, but we were most definitely safer a week ago than we are today.

[AGDee]

Originally Posted by DeltaBetaBaby

So you honestly believe that we are safer today than we were a week ago?

We have, at long last, proven that if you go after us, we will go after you and we will not quit until we succeed. Sometimes that message is an important one to send.

Does that make us safer? It is the core of a solid defense strategy. If people believe that they can attack us without consequence, then they will be more likely to attack us. We would be seen as weak in the eyes of many. Being seen as strong does make us safer.

[Ghostwriter]

Originally Posted by DeltaBetaBaby

So you honestly believe that we are safer today than we were a week ago?

Absolutely. UBL was not a leader but he was a figure head in which the terrorist rallied around. A dead figure head for a murderous terrorist group is a great thing. We simply cannot cower in fear as to what these people plan to do to us. They would do it anyway. Every terrorist we kill makes us one dead terrorist safer. The alternative is to capitulate and bow to their whims and demands. That isn't going to happen. Some things are just worth fighting for.

[als463]

Originally Posted by AlphaFrog

I'm a little about people giving actual credit for this to Obama. He happened to be dealt a royal flush, nothing was really of his own doing.Either way, I'm also a little squicked out by people celebrating his death. Even my Pastor's wife was Facebooking about it. She was proud because apparently it was the Navy that took him out, and her.son is currently enrolled at Annapolis.

Also, my Pastor had coincidentally (or not so much when you consider the Holy Spirit) chosen yesterday for a sermon on the Revelation/end-times. Interesting stuff, especially when he taught on the Muslim version.

That's all I could think about when reading everyone's FB status updates and watching his speech on the news. It was the MILITARY and I'd like to see proof. I think it was PIKA2001 that brought up about the Hussein brothers-I can tell you that I know, for a fact, they were def. killed because I was literally stationed 2 blocks down from where their bodies were. So, I'm not sure about the GC on showing pictures...hmmmm....

[knight_shadow]

Originally Posted by als463

That's all I could think about when reading everyone's FB status updates and watching his speech on the news. It was the MILITARY and I'd like to see proof. I think it was PIKA2001 that brought up about the Hussein brothers-I can tell you that I know, for a fact, they were def. killed because I was literally stationed 2 blocks down from where their bodies were. So, I'm not sure about the GC on showing pictures...hmmmm....

The military who was acting on a directive from the Commander-In-Chief.

[AlphaFrog]

Originally Posted by knight_shadow

The military who was acting on a directive from the Commander-In-Chief.

Forrest Gump, Rainman, and GWB all would have made the same call. It was a no-brainer, non-issue.