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Originally Posted by AlphaFrog
Are you seriously saying that a VIABLE HUMAN should legally be able to be murdered?
I have two hotbutton issues. Abortion is one of them.
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Infants should not be murdered. A fetus is a fetus until birth/delivery. The term murder doesn't apply to abortion although it does apply to what this non-doctor did. Feel free to say 'kill' if you like, but murder's one of those words that means what it means, not what you want it to mean.
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Originally Posted by Alumiyum
I interpreted her post to mean that because it's difficult for these women to get legal abortions they were going to this doctor to get illegal ones.
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This is pretty much the only reason why someone would go to this sort of doctor, because for whatever reason - late term, abuse, money, immigration status, outright fear or shame - they could not go to a licensed provider.
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Originally Posted by AlphaFrog
My response was more directed to the part about "severe restrictions on when they can be performed", and then her adding the comment about partial-birth...I can't even being myself to call it abortion, since you're not even TECHNICALLY aborting a pregnancy.
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If you abort, you abort. Late term abortions are not something that people generally do for shits and giggles in the first place, so I'm really not getting where your rage was coming from. Think about what it would take for YOU to be in a place where you would go see a doc like this one. Why would you assume these women are any different.
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Originally Posted by DaemonSeid
Ok, yeah, I had a real problem with that too especially with him aborting fetuses close to term.
That he had no conscience doing it and that some women went that long before having this done really turned my stomach.
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As others have said, this isn't something people do because they're HAPPY about it. This is a desperation measure.
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Originally Posted by agzg
They might have had valid reasons for going that long - they couldn't get an abortion at reputable places, they couldn't afford it, this was a last resort, things of that nature.
It's unfortunate that those who may actually need these procedures more often (lower socioeconomic status and all the sexual and opportunity-based implications that may have) usually have the hardest time being able to access them in safe and reputable conditions.
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You are awesome.
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Originally Posted by AlphaFrog
If you can use Shady McQuack at 8 months, you could have used him at 3.
Either way, there is NO valid reason for aborting/murdering a viable baby. Period.
And you want your CHOICE? You got it, and you CHOSE to get nekkid. Choice made. That's my version of pro-choice.
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Nice, keep your opinions out of my uterus and we're all good. But god there is so much wrong with what you said here that I can't even begin. If this were any other medical procedure no one would think of blaming the victims, but here noooooo those damn sluts should have kept their legs closed, right?
Why the hell would you think that this is something people do just because they think it's fun? If abortion was safe, legal, covered by national health insurance and didn't involve people being harassed by protesters, do you think anyone would EVER have to go to a doc like this? Hell no.
Most late-term abortions are due to issues like Down's Syndrome or genetic problems that would result in the infant's death shortly after birth. They are not because suzy couldn't "choose" not to have sex. But even if they are, I'd rather women have access to the care than do this, because this is the result when abortion is illegal or when access is restricted.
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