Astrological Signs Change

[knight_shadow]

Originally Posted by rhoyaltempest

True but you get what I mean

Yea, I know

Just pointing out that it's not silly to study the physics of the universe, but getting all OMG MISS CLEO crazy can come off as silly.

[rhoyaltempest]

Originally Posted by knight_shadow

Yea, I know

Just pointing out that it's not silly to study the physics of the universe, but getting all OMG MISS CLEO crazy can come off as silly.

It's scary though how much I'm a Taurus that I sometimes want to call Miss Cleo...LOL! But I won't.

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by rhoyaltempest

Some people study astrology. There's nothing "silly" about it and while I don't study it myself, I have respect for those that indeed take their astrological signs seriously. All I know is I'm 100% textbook Taurus in every way so there's definitely something to it...at least for me.

If Taurus 100% describes you, but does not 100% describe every person within the Taurus sign, then no, it's called coincidence. The human brain likes to see patterns, that doesn't actually mean there is true causation, or even true correlation. Particularly since the human brain also ignores things that disagree with the conclusions it already has and retains the things that agree. So when the horoscope is 'right' then we remember how AWESOMELY right it was and when it was wrong we remember how AWESOMELY RIGHT IT WAS LAST TIME.

So yes, it is silly. It's not science. It can be studied as a practice the same way many other things are studied, but if it is anything it is purely faith based. As I've never seen anyone actually claim a zodiacal faith, I'm not particularly concerned with calling it silly.

That doesn't mean it's wrong to read a horoscope for entertainment, or to read up on the historical and religious beliefs of the time of Ptolemy when the western zodiac was created and understand the concept... but basing one's life on it, complaining about having to relearn one's life as a ________ because they're no longer a ____________ is silly.

And k_s appears to be mistaking astrology with astronomy.

[knight_shadow]

Ahhh, fuck. You're right, DF.

[ComradesTrue]

Originally Posted by Drolefille

If Taurus 100% describes you, but does not 100% describe every person within the Taurus sign, then no, it's called coincidence. The human brain likes to see patterns, that doesn't actually mean there is true causation, or even true correlation. Particularly since the human brain also ignores things that disagree with the conclusions it already has and retains the things that agree. So when the horoscope is 'right' then we remember how AWESOMELY right it was and when it was wrong we remember how AWESOMELY RIGHT IT WAS LAST TIME.

So yes, it is silly. It's not science. It can be studied as a practice the same way many other things are studied, but if it is anything it is purely faith based. As I've never seen anyone actually claim a zodiacal faith, I'm not particularly concerned with calling it silly.

That doesn't mean it's wrong to read a horoscope for entertainment, or to read up on the historical and religious beliefs of the time of Ptolemy when the western zodiac was created and understand the concept... but basing one's life on it, complaining about having to relearn one's life as a ________ because they're no longer a ____________ is silly.

Do I hear an AMEN? Oh, wait...

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by knight_shadow

Ahhh, fuck. You're right, DF.

It's why I'm here. To be the kill to your buzz. The cold floor underneath your naked ass in the morning.

Wait.

[Splash]

Originally Posted by SMTTT

I liked being a Gemini even though we get a bad rap

Bingo.

AND I'll go ahead and save you all the trouble of making the multiple personalities joke - I only have ONE username.

[rhoyaltempest]

Originally Posted by Drolefille

If Taurus 100% describes you, but does not 100% describe every person within the Taurus sign, then no, it's called coincidence. The human brain likes to see patterns, that doesn't actually mean there is true causation, or even true correlation. Particularly since the human brain also ignores things that disagree with the conclusions it already has and retains the things that agree. So when the horoscope is 'right' then we remember how AWESOMELY right it was and when it was wrong we remember how AWESOMELY RIGHT IT WAS LAST TIME.

So yes, it is silly. It's not science. It can be studied as a practice the same way many other things are studied, but if it is anything it is purely faith based. As I've never seen anyone actually claim a zodiacal faith, I'm not particularly concerned with calling it silly.

That doesn't mean it's wrong to read a horoscope for entertainment, or to read up on the historical and religious beliefs of the time of Ptolemy when the western zodiac was created and understand the concept... but basing one's life on it, complaining about having to relearn one's life as a ________ because they're no longer a ____________ is silly.

And k_s appears to be mistaking astrology with astronomy.

I don't even read horoscopes very much; they're never dead on with me but I do believe there is something to the zodiac, for some more than others of course. Some people are 100% their sign and others are to a certain extent or on the cusp with another or more. I have a book on Taurus which I purchased a while back just for fun, based on the study of several Taureans, both men and women and was totally amazed at the intimate details it revealed about my personality; things most people don't even know about me. Now, will every Taurus prove to be the same way, probably not but all the Taureans I know (and I know a few, both men and women) share the same personality traits and there also seems to be a slight difference (but the same difference) regarding April Taureans vs. May Taureans and males vs. females. Is this coincidence? I don't see it that way but we can agree to disagree since all opinions are valid.

[rhoyaltempest]

Originally Posted by Drolefille

If Taurus 100% describes you, but does not 100% describe every person within the Taurus sign, then no, it's called coincidence. The human brain likes to see patterns, that doesn't actually mean there is true causation, or even true correlation. Particularly since the human brain also ignores things that disagree with the conclusions it already has and retains the things that agree. So when the horoscope is 'right' then we remember how AWESOMELY right it was and when it was wrong we remember how AWESOMELY RIGHT IT WAS LAST TIME.

So yes, it is silly. It's not science. It can be studied as a practice the same way many other things are studied, but if it is anything it is purely faith based. As I've never seen anyone actually claim a zodiacal faith, I'm not particularly concerned with calling it silly.

That doesn't mean it's wrong to read a horoscope for entertainment, or to read up on the historical and religious beliefs of the time of Ptolemy when the western zodiac was created and understand the concept... but basing one's life on it, complaining about having to relearn one's life as a ________ because they're no longer a ____________ is silly.

And k_s appears to be mistaking astrology with astronomy.

Thanks for pointing this out. Knight_Shadow was trying to confuse me.

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by rhoyaltempest

I don't even read horoscopes very much; they're never dead on with me but I do believe there is something to the zodiac, for some more than others of course. Some people are 100% their sign and others are to a certain extent or on the cusp with another or more. I have a book on Taurus which I purchased a while back just for fun, based on the study of several Taureans, both men and women and was totally amazed at the intimate details it revealed about my personality; things most people don't even know about me. Now, will every Taurus prove to be the same way, probably not but all the Taureans I know (and I know a few, both men and women) share the same personality traits and there also seems to be a slight difference (but the same difference) regarding April Taureans vs. May Taureans and males vs. females. Is this coincidence? I don't see it that way but we can agree to disagree since all opinions are valid.

But if it only describes some Taureans then what is the point?

I mean, for example, I'm a Capricorn. I'm very stubborn, but I'm not organized at all. If I want to believe in the zodiac I'd probably say, well I'm such a Capricorn and if it weren't for my ADD I'd be really really organized too. So I've created an explanation.

But the real question is, how do constellations which are random groupings of stars that kind of looked like certain beings to the Ancient Greeks (for the Ptolemeic zodiac) have any effect on the personalities of people born during 'their' months.

It's not surprising you see patterns, because as I said, that's what the brain does. It's really common, but that doesn't mean there's actually something TO the zodiac.

Sorry, it's just that differing opinions don't come into play when it's about evidence and science. If you want to believe in it, fine, but it's essentially religious.

[NinjaPoodle]

Originally Posted by 33girl

Eff no. This is stupid.

Originally Posted by lovespink88

No me gusta.

Originally Posted by Kappamd

Heck NO.

Originally Posted by Gusteau

I'm still a Taurus.

YES to all of the above and I'm NOT a Libra D*** IT! I'm full on Scorpio. Beeyotch.

Hee Hee

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by Jen

It's not just the sun that you pay attention to in astrology when it comes to what your personality is supposed to be like. Every planet is in a sign when you're born as well. Each planet rules specific characteristics ie Mercury rules communication etc.

So you may have the Sun in Aries when you're born, and be an Aries, but maybe Mercury is in Virgo. So you may act like a Virgo in situations regarding communication. Venus might be in Gemini, so you may act like a Gemini in situations regarding love and relationships.

The moon changes signs every few hours, and it has a big effect too, so people born the same day can have different influences in their chart.

There's also the 'rising sign' which is supposed to colour a lot of your personality, it's the sign that's on the horizon when you're born. This sign changes frequently as well.

So there are actual explanations built into astrology for why a person may not suit their sun sign. Whether they hold any water or not is up to each person's beliefs.

Yet two people born at the same time in the same general area of the world will still have different personalities. I agree, it's about beliefs.

[PeppyGPhiB]

They want to make me not even a Libra, but a Virgo? They're moving me up TWO signs? No way, I'm a textbook Scorpio! Fear my stinger!

[NinjaPoodle]

Originally Posted by Brandon X

I don't get into astrology. I think it's stupid. I find it sort of laughable that some people actually believe it to be true. "I'm a leo, so I get along with an Aries". It's horseshit.

It's entertainment.

[AnchorAlum]

I've been a Moon Child/Cancer all my life and I'm just too damned old to change into a Gemini now.

Imagine the confusion. Which Twin would I be? A grumpy old one? Heck, at my age I've already got the grumpy thing going on.