Funding cuts leave many without home heating assistance in Macon

[Drolefille]

Someone who buys beer is not cheating his foodstamps. You realize that assistance is more effective if we don't wait for someone to get down to the absolute last straw before helping them, right? If you lost your job, wouldn't you prefer to get help sooner, so you could get back on your feet, rather than wait until you had nothing left? If you wait til the last minute you're going to have a much harder time regaining the status you had before. And I'm not talking about who has the biggest car, I'm talking about owning a car, having a mortgage, the things that require equity.

You've now assumed that this woman lived beyond her means because she had a TV. When you get a spreadsheet with her financials before and after, let me know. The idea that she could sell a used TV for anything close to what she paid for it is unlikely. And if you're making up scenarios why not make one up that actually favors the person you're looking at instead of judging that person for not living up to the standards you set for them - not for yourself as you're not there. That TV could have been a present from someone more well off, it could have been something they saved a very long time for and selling it could break the camel's back, but mostly it's not any of your business, nor the government's business when it comes to aid.

The myth of the welfare queen lives on *sigh*

[PiKA2001]

Originally Posted by Drolefille

You've now assumed that this woman lived beyond her means because she had a TV. When you get a spreadsheet with her financials before and after, let me know. The idea that she could sell a used TV for anything close to what she paid for it is unlikely. And if you're making up scenarios why not make one up that actually favors the person you're looking at instead of judging that person for not living up to the standards you set for them - not for yourself as you're not there. That TV could have been a present from someone more well off, it could have been something they saved a very long time for and selling it could break the camel's back, but mostly it's not any of your business, nor the government's business when it comes to aid.

The myth of the welfare queen lives on *sigh*

YES, I'm assuming this woman is/was living beyond her means just like you are assuming she isn't. Fruad happens Drolefille, don't act like it doesn't.

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by PiKA2001

YES, I'm assuming this woman is/was living beyond her means just like you are assuming she isn't. Fruad happens Drolefille, don't act like it doesn't.

Fraud is a very tiny percentage. I've worked for Public Aid, it most certainly exists but the actual data doesn't support every person you see buying cheetoes in the grocery store along with their cigarettes as a fraud.

And I hope that if you're so quick to judge someone who gets food stamps and buys a case of beer that you never ever treat yourself to anything, or buy anything frivolous unless you enjoy being hypocritical. It is possible to work full time and qualify for assistance, it's possible to have two full time jobs in the family and qualify for WIC and medicaid. These people are defrauding the government, they're poor. I'm glad that those standards are what is used to grant assistance and not yours.

If you're happy being judgmental fine, but this post started out with "I don't want to be judgmental, but..." and that's what I'm addressing.

[PiKA2001]

Originally Posted by Drolefille

And I hope that if you're so quick to judge someone who gets food stamps and buys a case of beer that you never ever treat yourself to anything, or buy anything frivolous unless you enjoy being hypocritical. It is possible to work full time and qualify for assistance, it's possible to have two full time jobs in the family and qualify for WIC and medicaid. These people are defrauding the government, they're poor. I'm glad that those standards are what is used to grant assistance and not yours.

If you're happy being judgmental fine, but this post started out with "I don't want to be judgmental, but..." and that's what I'm addressing.

The bolded doesn't relate because everything I own or buy is bought with MY OWN MONEY.

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by PiKA2001

The bolded doesn't relate because everything I own or buy is bought with MY OWN MONEY.

Whatever, I didn't realize that receiving public assistance means you never get to have anything special ever. (And don't tell me you've never received any assistance, subsidized loans, tax breaks, or even help from your parents who got write offs for you.) We should just hand out beans and gruel at the workhouses, that was more efficient.

[PiKA2001]

Originally Posted by Drolefille

Whatever, I didn't realize that receiving public assistance means you never get to have anything special ever. (And don't tell me you've never received any assistance, subsidized loans, tax breaks, or even help from your parents who got write offs for you.) We should just hand out beans and gruel at the workhouses, that was more efficient.

LOL, let's not get too dramatic now. Essentially what I'm saying is-

How about we give less to the lady who owns a 50in TV and cable television and more to the lady who has never been able to afford either in her lifetime.

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by PiKA2001

LOL, let's not get too dramatic now. Essentially what I'm saying is-

How about we give less to the lady who owns a 50in TV and cable television and more to the lady who has never been able to afford either in her lifetime.

And I'm saying that I'm glad your standards aren't the ones used, for a lot of reasons.

Hell you don't even know if she has cable but you're sure judging her hard.