Perhaps I should have expanded on some my assessment.
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TSteven: Your POV may be dead on correct.
However the days of big, strong, old chapters with high powered alumni getting a free pass or a slap on the wrist are starting to end.
The schools just do not take all too kindly to it any more.
The Nationals just do not take all too kindly to it any more.
The city/state just do not take all too kindly to it any more.
And the alumni are getting a bit wiser as well.
As with all of these matters, only time will tell.
And in truth, from what story has, it is only one student charged. Not the chapter house.
Unlike the situation over in NYC at Columbia U.
And those chapters are just about DOA.
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My reply to Preston327 was what I had interpreted as his concern that the UK Delts might lose their physical house. I don’t see that happening because of the support of the chapters’ alumni. I personally know a few who worked on the expansion and upgrade of the house. I would be shocked to hear that these gentlemen would let anything happen to the physical house if there was a probation or suspension. As such, as I noted, *if* the whole chapter were to be on probation or suspended, the physical house will remain with the Housing Corporation. Sorry I was not clear about that.
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Originally Posted by Preston327
I have no doubt at all about that, but as SOM said the days of alumni being able to intercede for the sins of their actives are coming to an end in a lot of places. While I don't know what Kentucky's campus culture is like by any means I'm kind of worried for my brothers at UK that the unwise actions of this one brother might cause them all to be tarred with the same brush by the campus/Nationals, and possibly sanctioned for something that they didn't do and quite possibly had little knowledge of.
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One thing I can say for my alma mater is that with respect to Greek Life, they seem fair. If the University finds that an individual member – or members – are to blame, then it is likely that only the individual(s) will be held responsible. And whatever punishment is warranted will be dealt out to them. If the University finds that the chapter – as a “whole” – has responsibility, I would expect the University to put the chapter on some sort of probation or suspension.
Now unless things have drastically changed - and some of the other UK folk might be able to chime in here to confirm one way or the other – the UK Delta Tau Delta chapter has a good reputation. So I would anticipate a “worse case” scenario of perhaps a two year probation or suspension if the whole chapter is found at fault. And like other UK chapters, they would be allowed to return after serving their probation/suspension.
Because the “physical house” is the property of the UK Delta Tau Delta Housing Corporation (or whatever it may be called), once the chapter returns, they will be able to recruit out of that “physical house”. Which is an important in rush at UK. And again, unless things have changed, the Delt name should attract “quality” men in seeking membership within the chapter. So *if* there is some sort of suspension or probation, I would expect the chapter to return to being a "top" chapter quickly. They are that strong.
Now what Delta Tau Delta HQ does is another thing. But I doubt they would permanently revoke UK’s charter over this. But I am not a Delt so how this plays out, we shall just have to wait and see.
My roommate from my freshman year is a Delt. And as I noted before, I am friends with other UK Delts as well. As such, I have nothing but respect for the UK Delta Tau Delta chapter and wish them the best.
such a nice house too...I suppose all the facts will come out in trial but I'm willing to bet this young man has already been convicted in the court of public conscience. I'm no fan of the current drug laws but they are what they are and unfortunately it seems he broke them.
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