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			Why do I feel like I wandered into the Argument Clinic ?
		
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					Originally Posted by MysticCat   |  Is that your way of saying that you feel as though people were picking a pointless "argument" in this thread?
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					Originally Posted by DrPhil  Is that your way of saying that you feel as though people were picking a pointless "argument" in this thread? |  It's my way of commenting on people arguing about whether they're having an argument -- particularly certain people denying that they're having an argument.
		 
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					Originally Posted by KSig RC  This is some internet drama, because I had the audacity to challenge your opinion? |  I think it is because you are the fourth from the left.
 
   
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					Originally Posted by Ghostwriter  I think it is because you are the fourth from the left.  |  And, as always, Ghostwriter comes late to ride someone's nuts and fight a battle that is already over.
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					Originally Posted by MysticCat  It's my way of commenting on people arguing about whether they're having an argument -- particularly certain people denying that they're having an argument. |  This made me dizzy. LOL. 
  
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I don't understand (well, I do, and that's what the last pages of this thread have been about) all of the articles announcing that there will be an announcement this afternoon, but here goes:
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_1...72-504083.html 
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					Originally Posted by DrPhil  And, as always, Ghostwriter comes late to ride someone's nuts and fight a battle that is already over. |  Lollerskates.
 
Also, I really freaking hate Nancy Grace.  Like, a whole lot.  That's neither here nor there in NH's case though.
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					Originally Posted by agzg  Lollerskates.
 Also, I really freaking hate Nancy Grace. Like, a whole lot. That's neither here nor there in NH's case though.
 |  Has Nancy Grace been talking about Natalee Holloway a lot?  I thought she was obsessed with this case (and other cases).  I haven't watched or listened to her in a while so I don't know if she's still covering this case.  
  
(I never liked Nancy Grace's original show or her new court show.  I could rant about that in another thread.  LOL.)
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				11-23-2010, 11:35 AM
			
			
			
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			They're presenting as we speak. One of my friends is a forensic researcher and is at the presentation (but doesn't work on the case)
On a different note, I find it weird they still call Aruba a Dutch Island. It's like calling Scotland English. |  
	
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					Originally Posted by DrPhil  Has Nancy Grace been talking about Natalee Holloway a lot?  I thought she was obsessed with this case (and other cases).  I haven't watched or listened to her in a while so I don't know if she's still covering this case.  
 (I never liked Nancy Grace's original show or her new court show.  I could rant about that in another thread.  LOL.)
 |  I'm not really sure - I sort of tuned out during her first frenzy over this case but I decided never to watch it again when I saw the way she treated Elizabeth Smart in an interview (not related to this case).
 
I can't see how she wouldn't be, though.
 
Also, and this is a sidenote, I really don't feel like NH's mom should have gone to see Joran in jail, and I really feel like it shouldn't have been televised.  I can't imagine that the media attention is having positive effects, at this point, which makes me really sad.
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					Originally Posted by agzg  Also, and this is a sidenote, I really don't feel like NH's mom should have gone to see Joran in jail, and I really feel like it shouldn't have been televised.  I can't imagine that the media attention is having positive effects, at this point, which makes me really sad. |  She and the guy who helped her (a much-hated Dutch TV reporter) are being sued for going in there because it was an illegal action that threatens the case against Joran.
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					Originally Posted by Tulip86  She and the guy who helped her (a much-hated Dutch TV reporter) are being sued for going in there because it was an illegal action that threatens the case against Joran. |  Ah, I didn't see that (sounds heartless, but on the whole this case doesn't really interest me).
 
I saw the teasers on the news and I was like "Really?  This seemed like a good idea to you people?"
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					Originally Posted by agzg  Also, and this is a sidenote, I really don't feel like NH's mom should have gone to see Joran in jail, and I really feel like it shouldn't have been televised. I can't imagine that the media attention is having positive effects, at this point, which makes me really sad. |  It is a spectacle.  A spectacle to which only certain demographics of people are able to subject others to.  
  
Show me a distraught and desperate family that is of lower socioeconomic status and/or racial and ethnic minority and I'll show "you" a distraught and desperate family that wouldn't receive as much media attention and definitely wouldn't be able to meet the accused, outside of a courtoom/criminal justice system context, and have it televised.
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					Originally Posted by agzg  Ah, I didn't see that (sounds heartless, but on the whole this case doesn't really interest me).
 I saw the teasers on the news and I was like "Really?  This seemed like a good idea to you people?"
 |  The case doesn't interest me that much either but Joran lived in the Netherlands for a while so Natalee's mum insist on going on Dutch TV a much as she can, and the aforementioned TV reporter is more than willing to give her a platform.
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					Originally Posted by Tulip86  They're presenting as we speak. One of my friends is a forensic researcher and is at the presentation (but doesn't work on the case)
 
 On a different note, I find it weird they still call Aruba a Dutch Island. It's like calling Scotland English.
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					Originally Posted by Tulip86  She and the guy who helped her (a much-hated Dutch TV reporter) are being sued for going in there because it was an illegal action that threatens the case against Joran. |  Good.  
  
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