AL Teen Missing in Aruba

[Alumiyum]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

Yes.

For every one person who went to school with her and kinda knew her, there are 20 people who say the same thing that you said but didn't know her.



And like you said the sellable story doesn't hurt.

Sorry, I don't see why that effects the reasoning I have for caring. She was uncommonly nice and pretty selfless for a teenager. (Not that I went to high school with a bunch of assholes, but they were generally about as self centered as I was, and I simply remember that she was nicer to others than the majority of us were). Of course, I also knew and know some of the people who were most effected by all of this (her friends, not her family) and I can't imagine how it was to watch the news for information and see the things that they did on CNN, Nancy Grace, etc. Which is another reason I still follow the case.

There's nothing wrong with following a story because you identify with the family, are sympathetic to the victim, etc. A lot of people follow the case because she reminds them of their own daughter, or they were in a similar situation and made it out alive, or just because she seems like someone they could be friends with, things like that. It's why the story is sellable, but it doesn't mean she doesn't deserve the sympathy (or that her family/friends don't).

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by Alumiyum

Sorry, I don't see why that effects the reasoning I have for caring. She was uncommonly nice and pretty selfless for a teenager. (Not that I went to high school with a bunch of assholes, but they were generally about as self centered as I was, and I simply remember that she was nicer to others than the majority of us were). Of course, I also knew and know some of the people who were most effected by all of this (her friends, not her family) and I can't imagine how it was to watch the news for information and see the things that they did on CNN, Nancy Grace, etc. Which is another reason I still follow the case.

There's nothing wrong with following a story because you identify with the family, are sympathetic to the victim, etc. A lot of people follow the case because she reminds them of their own daughter, or they were in a similar situation and made it out alive, or just because she seems like someone they could be friends with, things like that. It's why the story is sellable, but it doesn't mean she doesn't deserve the sympathy (or that her family/friends don't).

I don't know what your post has to do with mine. You think I am typing specifically to and about you. I am talking about victimology and simply used your post as a foundation.

Did anyone say she doesn't deserve the sympathy? Do you know what victimology is?

[Alumiyum]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

I don't know what your post has to do with mine. You think I am typing specifically to and about you. I am talking about victimology and simply used your post as a foundation.

Did anyone say she doesn't deserve the sympathy? Do you know what victimology is?

. Heaven forbid I thought that from your response in which you quoted my post. Yes, I understand what victimology is. Obviously, that is not the objective lens through which I see this story.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by Alumiyum

. Heaven forbid I thought that from your response in which you quoted my post.

You now understand that you don't have to keep explaining how you know her and why you feel a certain way about the topic. What you said about Holloway isn't exclusive to you, hence my initial post in which I used your post as a foundation for a general statement on people's reactions.

Originally Posted by Alumiyum

Obviously, that is not the objective lens through which I see this story.

You don't see this story through an objective lens.

[Alumiyum]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

You now understand that you don't have to keep explaining how you know her and why you feel a certain way about the topic. What you said about Holloway isn't exclusive to you, hence my initial post in which I used your post as a foundation for a general statement on people's reactions.



You don't see this story through an objective lens.

You do realize that you don't have the final say on what people post, yes?

Correct. It is obvious that I do not, and therefore am not looking at this in connection to victimology.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by Alumiyum

You do realize that you don't have the final say on what people post, yes?

Look, if you want to assume that you need to explain your association with Holloway and how you feel about Holloway, have at it. Just don't assume that my posts are talking about you.

Originally Posted by Alumiyum

Correct. It is obvious that I do not, and therefore am not looking at this in connection to victimology.

Then were you being sarcastic when you said that you are looking at this through an objective lens?

[Alumiyum]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

Look, if you want to assume that you need to explain your association with Holloway and how you feel about Holloway, have at it. Just don't assume that my posts are talking about you.



Then were you being sarcastic when you said that you are looking at this through an objective lens?

I do not assume that, you assume that. I simply respond to the particular post I quote. I agree to not assume, if you do the same.

I said this, "Obviously, that is not the objective lens through which I see this story." which is meant to refer to victimology as an "objective lens". I see how you could have misread it because of how it is worded. I do not see the case objectively at all, which is pretty obvious, I think.