For Colored Girls

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by knight_shadow

Standard man-hating and empowered women

This is a thread in itself. I always say that we have enough miserable Black folks movies and I wish there was more balance. The balance song is the same song we've been singing for generations.

In the larger sense, I don't see it as man-hating or empowered women. I think his movies are a microcosm that is directed at a particular demographic that can relate to aspects of his plays and movies. All of his movies and plays have had at least one good man to highlight the good man vs. bad man dichotomy.

As much as I love some of his movies and say "get it, girl" during some scenes, I don't see the women's empowerment that some people see. True empowerment and liberation do not come at the hands of a man but that's what his plays and movies portray. Needing a shitty man to help you realize your power to overcome; or needing a good man to help you realize your potential keeps women in the same patriarchal structure. Show me a woman who realizes all of this without a man (or a woman for the lesbians) and I'll call her an empowered woman.

[knight_shadow]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

This is a thread in itself. I always say that we have enough miserable Black folks movies and I wish there was more balance. The balance song is the same song we've been singing for generations.

In the larger sense, I don't see it as man-hating or empowered women. I think his movies are a microcosm that is directed at a particular demographic that can relate to aspects of his plays and movies. All of his movies and plays have had at least one good man to highlight the good man vs. bad man dichotomy.

As much as I love some of his movies and say "get it, girl" during some scenes, I don't see the women's empowerment that some people see. True empowerment and liberation do not come at the hands of a man but that's what his plays and movies portray. Needing a shitty man to help you realize your power to overcome; or needing a good man to help you realize your potential keeps women in the same patriarchal structure. Show me a woman who realizes all of this without a man (or a woman for the lesbians) and I'll call her an empowered woman.

I see what you're saying.

TP is notorious for the "Giiiiiiiiirl, my man hits/cheats/yells/etc but as long as I have my girls, I'm OK! And when I least expect it, I'm gonna catch that one good man that I deserve!" sensibilities. That's what I was referring to.

It wasn't as blatant as, say, DOAMBWoman, but I attribute that to the cast.

[Ch2tf]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

This is a thread in itself. I always say that we have enough miserable Black folks movies and I wish there was more balance. The balance song is the same song we've been singing for generations.

In the larger sense, I don't see it as man-hating or empowered women. I think his movies are a microcosm that is directed at a particular demographic that can relate to aspects of his plays and movies. All of his movies and plays have had at least one good man to highlight the good man vs. bad man dichotomy.

As much as I love some of his movies and say "get it, girl" during some scenes, I don't see the women's empowerment that some people see. True empowerment and liberation do not come at the hands of a man but that's what his plays and movies portray. Needing a shitty man to help you realize your power to overcome; or needing a good man to help you realize your potential keeps women in the same patriarchal structure. Show me a woman who realizes all of this without a man (or a woman for the lesbians) and I'll call her an empowered woman.

Snaaaaaaping my fingers to this!!