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Old 10-15-2010, 08:20 PM
Elephant Walk Elephant Walk is offline
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Weird, you started your comment with "ha ha"

Perhaps "Ha ha" is shane for "I'm concerned about the negative influences media has on our youth"
Yeah, starting a sentence with haha does not implicate thinking rape is funny.

I am not surprised with your illogic.

(it might implicate that I saw the same quote on Old Row and think its funny if those kids read it.)
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Old 10-15-2010, 08:23 PM
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Yeah, starting a sentence with haha does not implicate thinking rape is funny.
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I agree with you. Somebody posted the video on facebook. I laughed. Whatever.

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Old 10-16-2010, 08:54 PM
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I prefer consequences to forced "apologies"

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ETA: Forced apologies are stupid.
I tend to agree. Nobody actually learns anything from them. Personally, I think a loss of charter for hazing and harassment could certainly help with that learning process though. A university or greek affairs ban on social activities with organizations with a majority membership of women or a Panhellenic boycott of their fraternity in general are a couple of other ideas.
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Old 10-17-2010, 01:19 AM
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Isn't this Bush's chapter? It's also DKE's founding chapter.
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Old 10-17-2010, 03:31 PM
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Isn't this Bush's chapter? It's also DKE's founding chapter.
More than Bush's chapter, if I recall correctly.

In terms of alumni, I believe it probably has the most powerful alumni of any fraternity chapter period.

Two Presidents, a Prime Minister of China, multiple CEO's of places like IBM, Wrigley, multiple notaries from the Qing dynasty, at least one Supreme Court Justice, etc, etc.
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Old 10-17-2010, 04:21 PM
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In terms of alumni, I believe it probably has the most powerful alumni of any fraternity chapter period.
All the more reason they should hold themselves to a higher moral standard of behavior.

I think the most offensive part of this was the location of the chanting. Truthfully, it shouldn't take a genius to realize that, statistically speaking at least, there would be more than a few survivors of rape living in a women's freshman dorm. How insensitive did they have to be?

Edited to add - I'm curious as to what the official response from their HQ will be... and when they'll be making it.
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Old 10-17-2010, 04:26 PM
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All the more reason they should hold themselves to a higher moral standard of behavior.

I think the most offensive part of this was the location of the chanting. Truthfully, it shouldn't take a genius to realize that, statistically speaking at least, there would be more than a few survivors of rape living in a women's freshman dorm. How insensitive did they have to be?
There's really nothing not offensive about it. There's no appropriate place to chant that and there could easily be survivors of rape in their pledge class.

The campus tolerates it, and it's frankly not surprising that it happens in the 'upper echelons' of education just as it happens in the rest of society.
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Old 10-15-2010, 08:35 PM
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Yeah, starting a sentence with haha does not implicate thinking rape is funny.

I am not surprised with your illogic.

(it might implicate that I saw the same quote on Old Row and think its funny if those kids read it.)
Actually while I might have implied you thought it was funny, I was talking about the originators of the phrase, not you. Although why it's funny that some kids read that on a blog/forum you also read is probably something best left to someone else to figure out.

But that probably speaks more about the fact that said forum has a thread called "Most Fucked Up You're-Going-Straight-To-Hell, Souless Thing You've Done To Girl."

/says a lot about their grammar too
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