19YO Former Howard Univ Student Aiyisha Hassan Commits Suicide

[knight_shadow]

Originally Posted by xp2k

Actually Dr. Phil, I typed my post as an agreement to your earlier post. I thought I had quoted it but I guess I hadnt. (just like it looks like i'm not quoting you again, but oh well...its not that serious)

To other people...my "point" is that every community has issues, and that the ones I listed were the ones that urked me about the gay community...that's really all...

The points that irked you about the gay community are points that exist in other communities as well.

- Dark vs. Light-skinned blacks
- Mexican vs. Puerto Ricans vs. etc
- Degree holders vs. "Common" folks
- Rich vs. poor
etc.

No group is going to fit neatly into a box, and its members aren't necessarily going to like every other member. This is not exclusive to the gay community.

So, again, what was your point?

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by knight_shadow

The points that irked you about the gay community are points that exist in other communities as well.

- Dark vs. Light-skinned blacks
- Mexican vs. Puerto Ricans vs. etc
- Degree holders vs. "Common" folks
- Rich vs. poor
etc.

No group is going to fit neatly into a box, and its members aren't necessarily going to like every other member. This is not exclusive to the gay community.

So, again, what was your point?

LOL. How are you able to summarize her/his point if you don't know what her/his point is?

Xp2k's tone and vent aside, there are GLBT people who are taken aback when they find the divisions within the GLBT communities. So, while it sounds like "common sense" to some people, it is a valid observation and a valid concern that has been the subject of many discussions and internal and external conflicts.

[knight_shadow]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

LOL. How are you able to summarize his point if you don't know what his point is?

(Is it he?) He said that he was basically co-signing with your post.

I read yours as "Yes, there may have been outside triggers, but there are also things within the GLBT community that could have affected this girl."

I read his as "OMGAWWWWD I HATE WHEN GAYS DO THIS AND THAT. IT'S SO GAY WHEN GAYS DO THESE THINGS. But everyone else does them to."

I am still trying to figure out why he posted that tirade (not what he said).

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by knight_shadow

(Is it he?) He said that he was basically co-signing with your post.

I read yours as "Yes, there may have been outside triggers, but there are also things within the GLBT community that could have affected this girl."

I read his as "OMGAWWWWD I HATE WHEN GAYS DO THIS AND THAT. IT'S SO GAY WHEN GAYS DO THESE THINGS. But everyone else does them to."

I am still trying to figure out why he posted that tirade.

It could be a "she."

LOL. She/he was venting and I don't think she/he intended to co-sign my post. But, you understand the point being made when you remove all of the vent stuff. Take away the stuff like "the GLBT community gets on my damn nerves because they are some of the most closeminded." As with any other minority group, only members of the GLBT community can say things like that, perhaps replacing "they" with "we" and having a completely different connotation.

[knight_shadow]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

It could be a "she."

LOL. She/he was venting and I don't think she/he intended to co-sign my post. But, you understand the point being made when you remove all of the vent stuff. Take away the stuff like "the GLBT community gets on my damn nerves because they are some of the most closeminded." As with any other minority group, only members of the GLBT community can say things like that, perhaps replacing "they" with "we" and having a completely different connotation.

I can see that.

Perhaps if s/he had quoted your post, it wouldn't have come off as bad. But I still see it as a "10 Things I Hate About Gays" checklist rather than an alternate POV.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by knight_shadow

I can see that.

Perhaps if s/he had quoted your post, it wouldn't have come off as bad. But I still see it as a "10 Things I Hate About Gays" checklist rather than an alternate POV.

Yeah I acknowledge that post was wrong in tone and that's why I only quoted the part of it that mattered for my purposes. LOL. You aren't surprised because posts that say "flame" should usually say "fail" instead.

It's like my saying "Black folks get on my darn nerves sometimes" (which I say often ) versus a nonBlack person saying it. Whatchumeanwegetonyourdamnnerves?!