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Old 09-04-2010, 11:57 PM
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Yea, I heard about that. Sheesh...

And I'm gonna need UNM to go ahead and call it quits. 72-0? No, sir.
The UO/UNM game marked a momentous occasion for me- the first time I've ever stopped watching my team win a game because I felt so bad for the OTHER team - and I stopped watching at the end of the 1st quarter mind you.
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Old 09-05-2010, 05:53 PM
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Went to the home opener for Florida State yesterday.

HOT as the fires of hell, but thankfully had access to some very cold adult beverages.
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Old 09-07-2010, 01:28 PM
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How about last night's Boise State Game? That was a big win for Broncos fans!
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Old 09-07-2010, 02:34 PM
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I woke up this morning to find my facebook feed full of melodramatic statuses about Boise State not deserving to be in the national title game (as if they had already earned a spot). A. They have played ONE game. CHILL. B. If you want your team to be in the national championship, then WIN.

I live in Ohio. One guess as to what school these whiners call their alma mater?
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Old 09-07-2010, 02:55 PM
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I woke up this morning to find my facebook feed full of melodramatic statuses about Boise State not deserving to be in the national title game (as if they had already earned a spot). A. They have played ONE game. CHILL. B. If you want your team to be in the national championship, then WIN.

I live in Ohio. One guess as to what school these whiners call their alma mater?
A few years ago when Boise State went to the (I believe) Fiesta Bowl and beat Oklahoma, everyone called them a Cinderella story. It's clear that, given their dominance in the WAC and wins over perennial Top 25 teams, that they are no Cinderella story. They're the real deal, and deserve to be at the top of the lists just like the rest of them.

I get why a lot of people think Boise State shouldn't be considered for the national title, though. They're playing most of their games against WAC teams. But it's the last year in the WAC...what will the naysayers say when they join the MWC next year?

I'm not surprised that the whiners at Ohio State are....well, whining.
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Old 09-07-2010, 03:06 PM
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But it's the last year in the WAC...what will the naysayers say when they join the MWC next year?
As a TCU grad I can tell you that they will be saying exactly what they said to us last year: "no dice."

Honestly, though, as much as I would love to see my school play for a national championship I do see the reasoning. Playing a WAC or a MWC schedule is not the same as playing a Big XII, Big X, or SEC schedule. It doesn't mean that the team itself isn't as good as the best that those conferences have, though. But the week to week battles are not the same, so without a playoff the debate rages on.

As someone who attended TCU when we were cellar-dwellers in the old Southwest Conference (may it rest in peace...) I am absolutely thrilled to even be in the top 25, not to mention being BSC bowl contenders. This is enough for me. If they let us (or Boise for that matter) in, then all the better. But I won't be among the legions crying foul if it doesn't happen.

Actually I would just be happy with some national respect. Three touchdown upset to Oregon State, Lee Corso? Gee, thanks. Whatever.

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Old 09-07-2010, 07:09 PM
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As a TCU grad I can tell you that they will be saying exactly what they said to us last year: "no dice."

Honestly, though, as much as I would love to see my school play for a national championship I do see the reasoning. Playing a WAC or a MWC schedule is not the same as playing a Big XII, Big X, or SEC schedule. It doesn't mean that the team itself isn't as good as the best that those conferences have, though. But the week to week battles are not the same, so without a playoff the debate rages on.

As someone who attended TCU when we were cellar-dwellers in the old Southwest Conference (may it rest in peace...) I am absolutely thrilled to even be in the top 25, not to mention being BSC bowl contenders. This is enough for me. If they let us (or Boise for that matter) in, then all the better. But I won't be among the legions crying foul if it doesn't happen.

Actually I would just be happy with some national respect. Three touchdown upset to Oregon State, Lee Corso? Gee, thanks. Whatever.
Absolutely! Also, considering that teams like Oklahoma, Alabama, Florida, LSU, Texas, Ohio St. (need I go on?) have much tougher schedules (especially the SEC) and are beaten up by the end of the year, Boise State beating Oklahoma in a Bowl Game means very little. Schedule strength is a huge factor, and Boise St. has a pitiful schedule. If they continue to skate through the season on those kinds of match ups, you'll start seeing the more competitive conferences calling foul.
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Old 09-07-2010, 07:12 PM
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Tough loss in Oxford today...hopefully it won't be too long of a season!
Bah. It was what LSU almost did. Figured you won it and called in the rest of the game. Hopefully Coach Nutt learned a lesson. I'm already sick of all the boo hooing I'm hearing from other LSU fans about our performance on Saturday, and we actually won. At least it won't be boring, right?
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Old 09-07-2010, 07:19 PM
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Absolutely! Also, considering that teams like Oklahoma, Alabama, Florida, LSU, Texas, Ohio St. (need I go on?) have much tougher schedules (especially the SEC) and are beaten up by the end of the year, Boise State beating Oklahoma in a Bowl Game means very little. Schedule strength is a huge factor, and Boise St. has a pitiful schedule. If they continue to skate through the season on those kinds of match ups, you'll start seeing the more competitive conferences calling foul.
And how exactly are these small schools supposed to improve their schedules when these so-called "competitive conferences" a. either refuse to play them entirely, or force them to spend their entire OOC schedule traveling? Talk about an unfair advantage.

This whole system is complete BS, and I am sick of schools like *insert overconfident, self-absorbed football school* going on like they own the BCS. Why don't we just get rid of all football teams outside of the SEC, Big Ten, etc.? We certainly wouldn't want to take any of your TV time away.
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Old 09-07-2010, 07:40 PM
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And how exactly are these small schools supposed to improve their schedules when these so-called "competitive conferences" a. either refuse to play them entirely, or force them to spend their entire OOC schedule traveling? Talk about an unfair advantage.

This whole system is complete BS, and I am sick of schools like *insert overconfident, self-absorbed football school* going on like they own the BCS. Why don't we just get rid of all football teams outside of the SEC, Big Ten, etc.? We certainly wouldn't want to take any of your TV time away.
It's about money, not sportsmanship and competition.

Boise State isn't going to mean as many butts in seats or TV watchers as even Baylor or Vanderbilt. If they were, maybe the Big XII or Pac-10 would be looking to snatch them up.
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Old 09-07-2010, 08:09 PM
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Bluorange State can't even sell out the Smurf Stadium, and their physical geography doesn't help in having opposing teams fan show up, except for Idaho and Utah, and okay, Oregon as it is on the interstate.

For all their whining about how no one will give them a chance and play with them, Andy Staples http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/201...ate/index.html pointed out their hypocrisy in not committing to playing my school's sucky team. I personally don't care if we play BSU again, but if it wasn't for all the whack schools in the WAC, there'd be a lot less Ws for BSU.

Big schools don't want to play because you're in a flyover desert that isn't a vacation destination like Hawaii, your University president gets butt hurt over an editorial in a student newspaper, and if something isn't done about the academic situation there won't be a school for a football team.

I'll reserve all of my nasty and inebriated uncivil comments about the truck driving degrees and bandwagon non-alumni fans for another time; but at least I realize and acknowledge the limitations of my school location and don't cray about it or crap all over the teams who got me to my wins.
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Old 09-07-2010, 08:09 PM
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It's about money, not sportsmanship and competition.

Boise State isn't going to mean as many butts in seats or TV watchers as even Baylor or Vanderbilt. If they were, maybe the Big XII or Pac-10 would be looking to snatch them up.
It's not like all of these schools are clamoring to join a big conference either. Look at Notre Dame. They have a cake schedule, and have been asked to join competitive conference several times. They aren't interested because they can sit back with their exclusive NBC contract and not have to play hard schools all year.

As for KappaMD, Boise St could join one of those conferences if they wanted to, but they don't want to do it. There was a lot of talk this past year of conference expansion. If you want to play with the big guys, you have to have a comparable schedule...that includes playing comparable teams. They could play more competitive teams. All of the competitive schools have slots in their schedules to play non-conference teams. LSU played UNC and will be playing West Virginia this year. We played Virginia Tech last year and will play Oregon St in our season opener next year. It sure is easy to sit back with an easy schedule and complain while others have the tougher match-ups.
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Old 09-07-2010, 08:10 PM
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It's about money, not sportsmanship and competition.

Boise State isn't going to mean as many butts in seats or TV watchers as even Baylor or Vanderbilt. If they were, maybe the Big XII or Pac-10 would be looking to snatch them up.
No kidding.
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Old 09-08-2010, 08:13 AM
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IAs for KappaMD, Boise St could join one of those conferences if they wanted to, but they don't want to do it.
Yeah, the BCS conferences are just lined up for Boise State.

They average about 32K fans per game in the stands.
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Old 09-08-2010, 09:40 AM
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Yeah, the BCS conferences are just lined up for Boise State.

They average about 32K fans per game in the stands.
I'll give you that, but they could definitely strengthen their schedule by adding in away games at bigger schools. No ones going to go play on their stupid blue AstroTurf, but that's their own fault for putting such a hard to look at grass in their stadium. If they negotiate right, they could play a neutral sites so they don't give away home field advantage. In the end they're the ones trying to prove themselves...make the effort. It's not about which conference is the best, but at least those conferences are pitting their best against each other week after week instead of just pronouncing that a team is good without testing them. If that's all it takes, why even play the game?
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