2010 College Football Thread

[AOII Angel]

Originally Posted by Blondie93

As a TCU grad I can tell you that they will be saying exactly what they said to us last year: "no dice."

Honestly, though, as much as I would love to see my school play for a national championship I do see the reasoning. Playing a WAC or a MWC schedule is not the same as playing a Big XII, Big X, or SEC schedule. It doesn't mean that the team itself isn't as good as the best that those conferences have, though. But the week to week battles are not the same, so without a playoff the debate rages on.

As someone who attended TCU when we were cellar-dwellers in the old Southwest Conference (may it rest in peace...) I am absolutely thrilled to even be in the top 25, not to mention being BSC bowl contenders. This is enough for me. If they let us (or Boise for that matter) in, then all the better. But I won't be among the legions crying foul if it doesn't happen.

Actually I would just be happy with some national respect. Three touchdown upset to Oregon State, Lee Corso? Gee, thanks. Whatever.

Absolutely! Also, considering that teams like Oklahoma, Alabama, Florida, LSU, Texas, Ohio St. (need I go on?) have much tougher schedules (especially the SEC) and are beaten up by the end of the year, Boise State beating Oklahoma in a Bowl Game means very little. Schedule strength is a huge factor, and Boise St. has a pitiful schedule. If they continue to skate through the season on those kinds of match ups, you'll start seeing the more competitive conferences calling foul.

[Kappamd]

Originally Posted by AOII Angel

Absolutely! Also, considering that teams like Oklahoma, Alabama, Florida, LSU, Texas, Ohio St. (need I go on?) have much tougher schedules (especially the SEC) and are beaten up by the end of the year, Boise State beating Oklahoma in a Bowl Game means very little. Schedule strength is a huge factor, and Boise St. has a pitiful schedule. If they continue to skate through the season on those kinds of match ups, you'll start seeing the more competitive conferences calling foul.

And how exactly are these small schools supposed to improve their schedules when these so-called "competitive conferences" a. either refuse to play them entirely, or force them to spend their entire OOC schedule traveling? Talk about an unfair advantage.

This whole system is complete BS, and I am sick of schools like *insert overconfident, self-absorbed football school* going on like they own the BCS. Why don't we just get rid of all football teams outside of the SEC, Big Ten, etc.? We certainly wouldn't want to take any of your TV time away.

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by Kappamd

And how exactly are these small schools supposed to improve their schedules when these so-called "competitive conferences" a. either refuse to play them entirely, or force them to spend their entire OOC schedule traveling? Talk about an unfair advantage.

This whole system is complete BS, and I am sick of schools like *insert overconfident, self-absorbed football school* going on like they own the BCS. Why don't we just get rid of all football teams outside of the SEC, Big Ten, etc.? We certainly wouldn't want to take any of your TV time away.

It's about money, not sportsmanship and competition.

Boise State isn't going to mean as many butts in seats or TV watchers as even Baylor or Vanderbilt. If they were, maybe the Big XII or Pac-10 would be looking to snatch them up.

[VandalSquirrel]

Bluorange State can't even sell out the Smurf Stadium, and their physical geography doesn't help in having opposing teams fan show up, except for Idaho and Utah, and okay, Oregon as it is on the interstate.

For all their whining about how no one will give them a chance and play with them, Andy Staples http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/201...ate/index.html pointed out their hypocrisy in not committing to playing my school's sucky team. I personally don't care if we play BSU again, but if it wasn't for all the whack schools in the WAC, there'd be a lot less Ws for BSU.

Big schools don't want to play because you're in a flyover desert that isn't a vacation destination like Hawaii, your University president gets butt hurt over an editorial in a student newspaper, and if something isn't done about the academic situation there won't be a school for a football team.

I'll reserve all of my nasty and inebriated uncivil comments about the truck driving degrees and bandwagon non-alumni fans for another time; but at least I realize and acknowledge the limitations of my school location and don't cray about it or crap all over the teams who got me to my wins.

[AOII Angel]

Originally Posted by Kevin

It's about money, not sportsmanship and competition.

Boise State isn't going to mean as many butts in seats or TV watchers as even Baylor or Vanderbilt. If they were, maybe the Big XII or Pac-10 would be looking to snatch them up.

It's not like all of these schools are clamoring to join a big conference either. Look at Notre Dame. They have a cake schedule, and have been asked to join competitive conference several times. They aren't interested because they can sit back with their exclusive NBC contract and not have to play hard schools all year.

As for KappaMD, Boise St could join one of those conferences if they wanted to, but they don't want to do it. There was a lot of talk this past year of conference expansion. If you want to play with the big guys, you have to have a comparable schedule...that includes playing comparable teams. They could play more competitive teams. All of the competitive schools have slots in their schedules to play non-conference teams. LSU played UNC and will be playing West Virginia this year. We played Virginia Tech last year and will play Oregon St in our season opener next year. It sure is easy to sit back with an easy schedule and complain while others have the tougher match-ups.

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by AOII Angel

IAs for KappaMD, Boise St could join one of those conferences if they wanted to, but they don't want to do it.

Yeah, the BCS conferences are just lined up for Boise State.

They average about 32K fans per game in the stands.

[AOII Angel]

Originally Posted by Kevin

Yeah, the BCS conferences are just lined up for Boise State.

They average about 32K fans per game in the stands.

I'll give you that, but they could definitely strengthen their schedule by adding in away games at bigger schools. No ones going to go play on their stupid blue AstroTurf, but that's their own fault for putting such a hard to look at grass in their stadium. If they negotiate right, they could play a neutral sites so they don't give away home field advantage. In the end they're the ones trying to prove themselves...make the effort. It's not about which conference is the best, but at least those conferences are pitting their best against each other week after week instead of just pronouncing that a team is good without testing them. If that's all it takes, why even play the game?

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by AOII Angel

I'll give you that, but they could definitely strengthen their schedule by adding in away games at bigger schools.

To be minimally credible as a contender for anything, they have to figure out a decent way to get a good SOS. Playing a couple of 2nd tier teams and then a bunch of teams who would probably go 0-fer in major conferences ain't going to get you there. Even if they're undefeated, a 1 loss team from any BCS conference or even a 2-loss team from the SEC deserves to play in the title game more than Boise.

No ones going to go play on their stupid blue AstroTurf, but that's their own fault for putting such a hard to look at grass in their stadium. If they negotiate right, they could play a neutral sites so they don't give away home field advantage. In the end they're the ones trying to prove themselves...make the effort. It's not about which conference is the best, but at least those conferences are pitting their best against each other week after week instead of just pronouncing that a team is good without testing them. If that's all it takes, why even play the game?

And again, no one cares about whether they can beat anyone. Boise State brings an unremarkable TV audience. That's the issue.

[VandalSquirrel]

I couldn't help but laugh at this article in the Idaho Statesman. It mentions Bluorange State fans having so much tied up in the Donkeys that:

"Greg Mondin, a Boise psychologist and expert on sports psychology, says some fans have so much of themselves tied up in the Broncos they may lose perspective.

"The root of this is the need to be attached to something successful," Mondin said. "People really want to be a part of it, and the hype makes the outcome feel more important. For some people, if they win, they'll take it to heart so much they'll feel like they played in the game and it's their accomplishment."

And if they lose? "Where that gets unhealthy is if that's the only thing contributing to your self-image."

To keep from sulking for days, calling in sick Tuesday, or lashing out at loved ones, Mondin suggested fans consider the big picture, including all the other good things in Idaho - the outdoors, family, good restaurants, an envied quality of life.

"Those things don't change just because the team loses, but we could let ourselves feel that way," he said."

Read more: http://www.idahostatesman.com/2010/0...#ixzz0z0xTxxML

I'm glad to know the years we were consistently in the Bottom 10 and losing on the regular didn't cause me to be institutionalized or taking antidepressants.

ETA: Our president, Duane Nellis, has a friendly wager with the Nebraska president as we have a game Saturday. It involves Nebraska beef and corn, and on our end Kobe beef and potatoes, obviously. There's also an interview with a tv station out of Spokane with Coach Akey, he cracks me up when he says re: Nebraska; I don't want to break y'all's hearts, but nobody is going to pick us to win this game, so we really can't screw it up.

[Kappamd]

Originally Posted by Kevin

It's about money, not sportsmanship and competition.

Boise State isn't going to mean as many butts in seats or TV watchers as even Baylor or Vanderbilt. If they were, maybe the Big XII or Pac-10 would be looking to snatch them up.

No kidding.