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Old 09-07-2010, 08:35 AM
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The article paints only one side. UNC has always been a strong chapter and I'm sure it will continue.
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Old 09-07-2010, 11:35 AM
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The article paints only one side. UNC has always been a strong chapter and I'm sure it will continue.
Paints only one side? I didn't get the impression the article was a debate, nor was it critical of he chapter.

I don't think the issue is whether UNC is strong enough to continue, but rather the fact that without members it cannot continue. No members=no chapter.

Obviously when the moratorium is lifted and it can once again do intake the chapter will have plenty of prospects. But until then the article, imo, accurately refelcts what happens when chapters are not allowed to take new members. Eventually all of the members graduate and no one is left.

On another note, there are some BGLOs that would put the chaper on inactive status when here is only one member left.
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Old 09-07-2010, 12:49 PM
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Obviously when the moratorium is lifted and it can once again do intake the chapter will have plenty of prospects. But until then the article, imo, accurately refelcts what happens when chapters are not allowed to take new members. Eventually all of the members graduate and no one is left.
What I wonder about in that situation is if the school understands what's going on and isn't going to make the post-moratorium members jump through hoops and/or treat them like an entirely new org. I mean, it's not their fault.

Schools are often so clueless about NPHC things - I know Pitt had this problem a couple years ago with NPHC groups possibly getting derecognized because they didn't have as many members as the NIC/NPC groups. To which I say DUUUUUHHHHHH.
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Old 09-07-2010, 02:17 PM
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Schools are often so clueless about NPHC things - I know Pitt had this problem a couple years ago with NPHC groups possibly getting derecognized because they didn't have as many members as the NIC/NPC groups. To which I say DUUUUUHHHHHH.
That's when the school and the organization's representatives work together to ensure that the charter is not lost. Some NPHC chapters, particularly at PWIs, pride themselves with being small. That can eventually pose a problem with and without a moratorium.
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Old 09-08-2010, 05:19 PM
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While this situation for Alpha has been occasioned by the intake moratorium, it's so common for various reasons. Frequent suspensions and other problems with administrations--at HBCUs and PWIs--often mean that chapter size is small. My own undergrad chapter of Omega was off "the yard" for a decade. If it was up to some, we would never have come back, but our chapter alumni remained persistent in the face of obstacles.

Mu Zeta Chapter of APhiA will be like the phoenix if the moratorium persists. For good or ill, the NPHC orgs "brands" are so distinct and indelibly marked in the consciousness of black college life that there will never be a time when a dormant chapter will not have interests to resurrect or reconstitute a chapter.
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Old 09-08-2010, 06:16 PM
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That's when the school and the organization's representatives work together to ensure that the charter is not lost. Some NPHC chapters, particularly at PWIs, pride themselves with being small. That can eventually pose a problem with and without a moratorium.
This is true but changing at some schools. Likely due to stigma and known situations regarding membership intake violations, some schools are no longer caring so much about NPHC orgs' needs and differences. I know of a PWI that now considers chapters inactive if there is less than 5 active members on campus and NPHC chapters are not exempt.
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Old 09-09-2010, 01:29 AM
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I know of a PWI that now considers chapters inactive if there is less than 5 active members on campus and NPHC chapters are not exempt.

My alma mater has upped it to 10, with little to no regard to an org's method of intake. Their stance is pretty much if your arent at 10 or you even anticipate dropping below 10 then you better just find the number of people you need and "make it do what it do" (not their actual words of course).
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Old 09-09-2010, 07:37 AM
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This is true but changing at some schools. Likely due to stigma and known situations regarding membership intake violations, some schools are no longer caring so much about NPHC orgs' needs and differences. I know of a PWI that now considers chapters inactive if there is less than 5 active members on campus and NPHC chapters are not exempt.
I remember hearing of a nearby college that had required NPHC sororities to participate in NPC rush/recruitment week to be recognized. I think it was the school's attempt to help the chapters increase their numbers. I don't know if they were required to hold pref or give bids, and I don't know what came of it, but another example of PWIs misunderstanding of NPHC needs and methods.

And don't get me wrong, I respect and like (most) of how NPC does recruitment, but countless retro stories paint horrid stories of less successful/stigmatized recruitment for smaller chapters (and smaller being like under 25-30). So how the freek is an NPHC chapter of 5-10 expected to throw a weeklong party w/o a house and little knowledge abt how the system even works?
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Old 09-09-2010, 02:16 PM
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I remember hearing of a nearby college that had required NPHC sororities to participate in NPC rush/recruitment week to be recognized. I think it was the school's attempt to help the chapters increase their numbers. I don't know if they were required to hold pref or give bids, and I don't know what came of it, but another example of PWIs misunderstanding of NPHC needs and methods.
That's insane. But after hearing the story about the Greek life advisor who was given a $$$ bonus if she placed every girl who went through rush (whether the chapters wanted them or not) I can believe anything.
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Old 09-09-2010, 05:32 AM
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What I wonder about in that situation is if the school understands what's going on and isn't going to make the post-moratorium members jump through hoops and/or treat them like an entirely new org. I mean, it's not their fault.

Schools are often so clueless about NPHC things - I know Pitt had this problem a couple years ago with NPHC groups possibly getting derecognized because they didn't have as many members as the NIC/NPC groups. To which I say DUUUUUHHHHHH.
This happened to my undergrad chapter and other NPHCs on campus. They either had to be exclusive to the school and retain a certain number or no longer be recognized on campus. Since most were city-wide anyway, their charter's were not in jeopardy BUT they could no longer reserve rooms, participate in certain activities, get school funding, etc.
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