UT (Texas) minority in "white" sorority

[gee_ess]

Originally Posted by spurs911

And thank you all for the discussion, however few of you actually answered my original question.

In all honesty, I think we have given all of the info and advice possible. Simply put: there are no guarantees in recruitment, so we cannot really tell you what your odds are - black, white, or whatever.

Your question brought some interesting thoughts on the issue of race in predominately white groups/Greek systems and spurred an interesting conversation.

I think you should go for it, if it is something you would like to pursue. If you don't, you will always wonder. Best of luck and keep us posted this fall.

[LadyLonghorn]

Originally Posted by spurs911

And thank you all for the discussion, however few of you actually answered my original question.

What kind of answer are you expecting? A precise statistical probability?

There are non-white members in several, but not all, NPC sororities at the University of Texas. You may fit in with a chapter. You may not. We don't know you nor the membership selection criteria of all chapters so how can you possibly think we can give you any kind of evaluation of your chances?

Go through recruitment. You either get a bid or you don't. You won't know the answer to your question until bid day. The end.

[sunnygirl2]

the simplest answer:

the average minority will always have a harder time getting a bid at a southern school versus the average caucasian. that's just how it is

i don't know your stats/ecs/connections though, so you may have a much better chance that the "average minority"

[ellebud]

My daughter's school has a VERY competitive recruitment. I have read here that it is like the SEC. But we aren't in the south and I suspect, a bit more used to integration. I will say upfront that I don't know how many African American, Asian and Hispanic women started recruitment. I do know that, in my daughter's pledge class there is diversity. (Oh wait, my daughter is Jewish, which when I went through being Jewish was an automatic drop.) I really didn't check out the girls based on that fact, I just know that I have seen lots of girls on the Row (not just my daughter's house) who are minorities.

So, things change, hopefully now for the better. You never know until you try.

[ms_gwyn]

yea, I was dealing with this issue, esp what Munchkin03 was saying to some extent back in 1991, but in Arizona, don't think I would've gone through NPC rush at a Texas, SEC or southern school....um no.

The majority of my high school community was Caucasian/Hispanic/Asian and of course my familial community was majority Af. Am.

I just felt more comfortable doing NPC rush and I will also say that while I was very aware of NHPC, but clueless about their process and I wanted an immediate community of "friends" via the sorority. I was young, kinda dumb (as most 19 yo) and away from home for the first time.

[DaemonSeid]

"If you're that hypersensitive about color and don't have a sense of humor, don't pledge out of your race." - Dr Laura Schlessinger



.....wait, wrong thread?

[knight_shadow]

Originally Posted by DeltaIVA

I was in your exact same position two years ago. I am Indian, a Junior at UT, and I went to a predominantly white high school where a lot of the girls who were going to UT were rushing. I didn't know much about how the system worked as far as race is concerned, so I just did the preparations (rec letters, professional pictures, etc.) and went in with a positive attitude.

I rushed with another Indian girl from my high school, and I met 4 or 5 other Indian girls who were also rushing. NONE of us got into ANY sorority. They do not let you in if you're Indian. Alright, let's be fair, I did see one Indian girl in a sorority when I was rushing, but she was in one that wasn't very good.

As far as the Indian sororities are concerned, I honestly don't know much about them that isn't hearsay, so I won't say anything about them here.

Am I glad I rushed? Sure, it was still a good experience, and I did get to meet a lot of new people that way, even though there was clearly something fishy going on there. Would I recommend that you rush? If you want to, go for it. Just be aware that there's a good chance you won't get in because you're Indian.

You were present for membership selection of EVERY sorority at UT?

[knight_shadow]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

"If you're that hypersensitive about color and don't have a sense of humor, don't pledge out of your race." - Dr Laura Schlessinger



.....wait, wrong thread?

Oh, come on. Don't go all NPHC on me.

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by knight_shadow

Oh, come on. Don't go all NPHC on me.

"black people do it all the time. Go to an HBCU, listen to a black student, and all you hear and see is...."

that's what she said ^^^^

[Elephant Walk]

If you're as hot as Dilshad Vadsaria (see: Rebecca Logan from Greek), than yes.

edit: Just realized she's Paki. Maybe you are SOL.

[agzg]

Originally Posted by DeltaIVA

I was in your exact same position two years ago. I am Indian, a Junior at UT, and I went to a predominantly white high school where a lot of the girls who were going to UT were rushing. I didn't know much about how the system worked as far as race is concerned, so I just did the preparations (rec letters, professional pictures, etc.) and went in with a positive attitude.

I rushed with another Indian girl from my high school, and I met 4 or 5 other Indian girls who were also rushing. NONE of us got into ANY sorority. They do not let you in if you're Indian. Alright, let's be fair, I did see one Indian girl in a sorority when I was rushing, but she was in one that wasn't very good.

As far as the Indian sororities are concerned, I honestly don't know much about them that isn't hearsay, so I won't say anything about them here.

Am I glad I rushed? Sure, it was still a good experience, and I did get to meet a lot of new people that way, even though there was clearly something fishy going on there. Would I recommend that you rush? If you want to, go for it. Just be aware that there's a good chance you won't get in because you're Indian.

Just wondering - did you (all) get dropped or did you (all) drop out because a chapter that wanted you "wasn't very good?"

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by Elephant Walk

If you're as hot as Dilshad Vadsaria (see: Rebecca Logan from Greek), than yes.

edit: Just realized she's Paki. Maybe you are SOL.

K_S and DS funny > EW funny

[knight_shadow]

Originally Posted by Elephant Walk

If you're as hot as Dilshad Vadsaria (see: Rebecca Logan from Greek), than yes.

Truer words have never been spoken...

[LadyLonghorn]

Originally Posted by DeltaIVA

I was in your exact same position two years ago. I am Indian, a Junior at UT, and I went to a predominantly white high school where a lot of the girls who were going to UT were rushing. I didn't know much about how the system worked as far as race is concerned, so I just did the preparations (rec letters, professional pictures, etc.) and went in with a positive attitude.

I rushed with another Indian girl from my high school, and I met 4 or 5 other Indian girls who were also rushing. NONE of us got into ANY sorority. They do not let you in if you're Indian. Alright, let's be fair, I did see one Indian girl in a sorority when I was rushing, but she was in one that wasn't very good.

As far as the Indian sororities are concerned, I honestly don't know much about them that isn't hearsay, so I won't say anything about them here.

Am I glad I rushed? Sure, it was still a good experience, and I did get to meet a lot of new people that way, even though there was clearly something fishy going on there. Would I recommend that you rush? If you want to, go for it. Just be aware that there's a good chance you won't get in because you're Indian.

How many Juniors do you know who received bids? Or should I say how many Juniors received bids to a "good" sorority?

[AOII Angel]

Originally Posted by LadyLonghorn

How many Juniors do you know who received bids? Or should I say how many Juniors received bids to a "good" sorority?

She said she's a junior now, and she rushed two years ago. I think she was a freshman when she went through recruitment. That being said, she leaves a lot of holes open in her story.