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08-08-2010, 08:51 PM
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missblonde- Dorms or off campus house/apartment. I highly doubt that anyone who is not yet initiated would ever be allowed to live in the sorority house. Also, there are many houses who don't let sophomores live there (or it's understood that all the spots are for seniors and exec members). The earliest you could possibly live in a sorority house would be the semester after you are initiated, since it's in the house's best interest to be at full living capacity at all times ($). If they have an open spot, they will be doing everything in their power to fill it before rush & the school year starts. [Sorry I know that wasn't worded the best, basically no you won't be able to live in a sorority house immediately.]
About quota- the number 92 keeps being passed around. Could change with late additions, I have no idea. The increase in total PNM numbers has bumped up quota by around 20 girls.
Tuuthfairy- I see no problem with sending aunt&daughter- I would check about aunt's daughter because of " Due to space constrictions, however, only new members and their parents will be permitted inside the sorority houses on Bid Day."
Magnoliacurious- I doubt the crowding problem will ever truly be solved. The number of sorority women far exceeds the capacity of the houses already. Unless the University were to tear down every single house and some buildings around sorority row and rebuild the houses bigger, there's gonna be a space issue [edit: even with the 4 new lots]. It's unfortunate that large families are at a disadvantage, but I can't think of a better idea as to how to handle the situation.
Best of luck to all of your daughters/nieces/friends, and I look forward to meeting them  Who knows, they could be my future sister!
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08-08-2010, 09:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Bamababe
missblonde- Dorms or off campus house/apartment. I highly doubt that anyone who is not yet initiated would ever be allowed to live in the sorority house. Also, there are many houses who don't let sophomores live there (or it's understood that all the spots are for seniors and exec members). The earliest you could possibly live in a sorority house would be the semester after you are initiated, since it's in the house's best interest to be at full living capacity at all times ($). If they have an open spot, they will be doing everything in their power to fill it before rush & the school year starts. [Sorry I know that wasn't worded the best, basically no you won't be able to live in a sorority house immediately.]
About quota- the number 92 keeps being passed around. Could change with late additions, I have no idea. The increase in total PNM numbers has bumped up quota by around 20 girls.
Tuuthfairy- I see no problem with sending aunt&daughter- I would check about aunt's daughter because of " Due to space constrictions, however, only new members and their parents will be permitted inside the sorority houses on Bid Day."
Magnoliacurious- I doubt the crowding problem will ever truly be solved. The number of sorority women far exceeds the capacity of the houses already. Unless the University were to tear down every single house and some buildings around sorority row and rebuild the houses bigger, there's gonna be a space issue [edit: even with the 4 new lots]. It's unfortunate that large families are at a disadvantage, but I can't think of a better idea as to how to handle the situation.
Best of luck to all of your daughters/nieces/friends, and I look forward to meeting them  Who knows, they could be my future sister!
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I heard from my daughter that the quota so far is 92 - the quota can be adjusted through the week based on how many girls remain in the last couple of days on rush.
There was an article in Crimson White (Bama newspaper) stating that some old buildings behind the president's home will be torn down and 4 new sorority houses will be built on that property. Existing sorority houses will be given first choice to bid for that space for new/bigger houses and then sororities wanting to colonize at Bama will be given the opportunity to take existing houses or new houses if not taken. It is my understanding Delta Gamma did not colonize this year because of space.
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08-08-2010, 09:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Bamababe
missblonde- Dorms or off campus house/apartment. I highly doubt that anyone who is not yet initiated would ever be allowed to live in the sorority house. Also, there are many houses who don't let sophomores live there (or it's understood that all the spots are for seniors and exec members). The earliest you could possibly live in a sorority house would be the semester after you are initiated, since it's in the house's best interest to be at full living capacity at all times ($). If they have an open spot, they will be doing everything in their power to fill it before rush & the school year starts. [Sorry I know that wasn't worded the best, basically no you won't be able to live in a sorority house immediately.]
About quota- the number 92 keeps being passed around. Could change with late additions, I have no idea. The increase in total PNM numbers has bumped up quota by around 20 girls.
Tuuthfairy- I see no problem with sending aunt&daughter- I would check about aunt's daughter because of " Due to space constrictions, however, only new members and their parents will be permitted inside the sorority houses on Bid Day."
Magnoliacurious- I doubt the crowding problem will ever truly be solved. The number of sorority women far exceeds the capacity of the houses already. Unless the University were to tear down every single house and some buildings around sorority row and rebuild the houses bigger, there's gonna be a space issue [edit: even with the 4 new lots]. It's unfortunate that large families are at a disadvantage, but I can't think of a better idea as to how to handle the situation.
Best of luck to all of your daughters/nieces/friends, and I look forward to meeting them  Who knows, they could be my future sister!
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i would bet that the university does not own the sorority houses(i know they don't own the ZTA house=our national housing corporation does), therefore, they would not be tearing any of them down.
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08-08-2010, 09:18 PM
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i would bet that the university does not own the sorority houses(i know they don't own the ZTA house=our national housing corporation does), therefore, they would not be tearing any of them down.
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No but the University owns the land they all sit on. And they have torn down several over the years for the stadium expansions. The DG, AEPi, D Phi E and Pi Phi houses were torn down for the East Side upper deck. Pi Phi then moved over between Chi O and KD. The other 3 groups were gone by then and the houses rented to other entities. So, if the university wanted to move all of them to another location, which they don't because they are expanding sorority row by 4 lots, they could buy back the "improvements" according to the terms of the land leases.
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08-08-2010, 09:20 PM
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The article said it was tearing down old buildings(not sorority houses) behind the president's house. The Pi Phis built a new house several years ago, because the football stadium went thru an expansion and the university needed the land.They were given new property between the ChiO and KD house.
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08-09-2010, 01:48 PM
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missblonde- Dorms or off campus house/apartment. I highly doubt that anyone who is not yet initiated would ever be allowed to live in the sorority house. Also, there are many houses who don't let sophomores live there (or it's understood that all the spots are for seniors and exec members). The earliest you could possibly live in a sorority house would be the semester after you are initiated, since it's in the house's best interest to be at full living capacity at all times ($). If they have an open spot, they will be doing everything in their power to fill it before rush & the school year starts. [Sorry I know that wasn't worded the best, basically no you won't be able to live in a sorority house immediately.]
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Okay, thank you! And I thought sororities did not do "initiation" anymore because it was "hazing"?
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08-09-2010, 01:56 PM
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Okay, thank you! And I thought sororities did not do "initiation" anymore because it was "hazing"?
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So we just slap a badge on you at the Bid Day brunch and proceed to share all our "mystic goodies" while your family is around?????
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08-09-2010, 02:01 PM
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Okay, thank you! And I thought sororities did not do "initiation" anymore because it was "hazing"?
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You've been watching too many movies and listening to the misinformed media.
Initiation is a beautiful ceremony in which new members learn all the secrets of the organization. It does not involve any hazing.
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08-09-2010, 02:02 PM
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Okay, thank you! And I thought sororities did not do "initiation" anymore because it was "hazing"?
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Initiation is a ritual or ceremony - a process that (often largely unchanged) has been done within each organization since their earliest days of existence. Initiation may include reciting creeds, wearing symbolic clothing, singing songs, and learning the sorority secrets and ideals. It's an incredibly moving experience, and nothing but positive.
In the 26 NPC sororities, there is no hazing during formal initiation rituals (ceremonies).
The media often use the words "initiation ritual" when they are actually referring to hazing activities that happen during the new member (pledge) period (hazing can happen outside of the new member period, but it's usually associated with "new members" of any type of group, from Greeks to sports to the military and even medical school). Hazing can take on different forms - mental, emotional, physical - and is not condoned by any NPC sorority.
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08-09-2010, 02:16 PM
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Initiation is a ritual or ceremony - a process that (often largely unchanged) has been done within each organization since their earliest days of existence. Initiation may include reciting creeds, wearing symbolic clothing, singing songs, and learning the sorority secrets and ideals. It's an incredibly moving experience, and nothing but positive.
In the 26 NPC sororities, there is no hazing during formal initiation rituals (ceremonies).
The media often use the words "initiation ritual" when they are actually referring to hazing activities that happen during the new member (pledge) period (hazing can happen outside of the new member period, but it's usually associated with "new members" of any type of group, from Greeks to sports to the military and even medical school). Hazing can take on different forms - mental, emotional, physical - and is not condoned by any NPC sorority.
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Okay, and what are sorority "secrets"? Like what does it mean? Btw, thank you for helping me out because I'm fairly clueless.
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