Feds to file lawsuit over Arizona immigration law

[KSig RC]

Originally Posted by PiKA2001

The police need only reasonable suspicion to stop or investigate somebody for suspected "wrongdoing", you need Prob cause to make the actual arrest though. It's almost borderline offensive to read how people are assuming that cops just can't wait to run out and start racial profiling everyone in their jurisdiction. If people are worried about it I suggest they read up on their 4th amendment and sue the hell out of the cop that violates it.

This is pretty short-sighted, on a variety of levels - although I feel where you're coming from.

The point isn't that police everywhere are bigoted assholes - the point is that some police are likely bigoted assholes (just like some people), and providing those assholes new tools that seem only to benefit assholes and not the greater good is probably a bad idea.

[PiKA2001]

Originally Posted by KSig RC

providing those assholes new tools that seem only to benefit assholes and not the greater good is probably a bad idea.

That's just YOUR opinion though.

AFAIK 70% of the population supports this bill/similar bills. I know that popular idea doesn't equal good idea, so let's not go there but we need to realize that a good portion of people out there believe this bill IS for the greater good.

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by PiKA2001

That's just YOUR opinion though.

AFAIK 70% of the population supports this bill/similar bills. I know that popular idea doesn't equal good idea, so let's not go there but we need to realize that a good portion of people out there believe this bill IS for the greater good.

So why bring it up if it doesn't mean anything?

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by PiKA2001

That's just YOUR opinion though.

AFAIK 70% of the population supports this bill/similar bills. I know that popular idea doesn't equal good idea, so let's not go there but we need to realize that a good portion of people out there believe this bill IS for the greater good.

I'm not understanding the redundant back and forth in these threads and it's really humorous that people think this all boils down to "that's just your opinion." What's the point if that's what it all boils down to?

It isn't uncommon for policies and laws to be assessed, by those who create and/or evalute them, on the basis of potential consequences that even SOME people think don't serve the greater good. That includes research and other evaluative sources. People's opinions or expertise on a matter can be the deciding factors even if it isn't the popular opinion based on however people determine what's popular.