Feds to file lawsuit over Arizona immigration law

[preciousjeni]

Originally Posted by Drolefille

First generation comes here, second generation is born here, third generation has NO citizenship (or nationality as Mexico defines it). None. We're a country of immigrants, some brought here by force, some by deceit, some for opportunity.

I'm with you for the most part, but this confused me. If the second generation is eligible to be natural-born Mexicans, then their children (third generation) are the children of natural-born Mexicans and are, therefore, natural-born Mexicans.

Am I reading it wrong?

Originally Posted by Kevin

The bill expressly says that race is not a factor in reaching probable cause.

We've been over that.

Right. Racial profiling will be eliminated because the bill says so. Got it.

[agzg]

Originally Posted by preciousjeni

I'm with you for the most part, but this confused me. If the second generation is eligible to be natural-born Mexicans, then their children (third generation) are the children of natural-born Mexicans and are, therefore, natural-born Mexicans.

Am I reading it wrong?

The second generation would only be natural-born because the parents were born WITHIN Mexican territory. So the third generation would be ineligible, because, although the parents were natural-born, they were not born within Mexican territory.

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by agzg

The second generation would only be natural-born because the parents were born WITHIN Mexican territory. So the third generation would be ineligible, because, although the parents were natural-born, they were not born within Mexican territory.

@preciousjeni - ^^^ This.

Mexico actually distinguishes between citizenship and nationality in the way that we might distinguish between "franchise" and citizenship. That is, to be a Mexican citizen you're 18 years old, not a criminal etc. Their "nationality" is like our "citizenship."

That said, while it is possible for those null-citizens to be naturalized as Mexican nationals, it's not automatic. If children brought over to the US as 3 year-olds feel little to no connection to Mexico, why would the third generation feel anything?

[preciousjeni]

Originally Posted by agzg

WITHIN Mexican territory

*lightbulb*