Gen Y: Educated and Jobless

[Elephant Walk]

Originally Posted by Alumiyum

They're hardly dismal as long as I'm willing to move (and I am). I realize it isn't a rock star salary but I plan on shooting for a job at a public school where I can get some solid benefits and have time to get an MFA while I work. I'm not up for a starving artist lifestyle. I'd rather have a steady paycheck with good benefits and regular hours, even if said paycheck isn't impressive. And it won't be boring.

This is sort of what I'm like too, although it's with my Doctorate.

I just want some sort of job that will help me pay for at least part of my doctorate while I'm getting it (not a GA position).

[33girl]

Originally Posted by AnotherKD

I know this is slightly off-topic, but I want to put this out there. My company is hiring a LOT, and we are being pressed to ask friends/acquaintences/anyone if they are looking for a job. I work for a large company, a government contractor. And there are offices all over the country, some of which are government-related, some of which deal with private companies. So, if anyone is interested, you are more than welcome to PM me and I can get your resume. I can give you more details about where I work, too, as I don't want to just post it here. They're especially looking for anyone with an IT or management/business background or major in college, and/or anyone with a clearance. Pretty good money from right out of school, though I came in after a MA and about 4 years of experience under my belt.

Just thought it might help!

Are they telling you to get a certain amount of resumes just to get them? I can do that for you, although I have no intention of relocating. You don't have to share that part though.

[epchick]

Originally Posted by Alumiyum

They're hardly dismal as long as I'm willing to move (and I am).

Ummm ok, if you say so.

[Alumiyum]

Originally Posted by epchick

Ummm ok, if you say so.

Okkkkk...can you tell me why it is dismal to teach? I'm pretty pumped for it.

[Alumiyum]

Originally Posted by Elephant Walk

This is sort of what I'm like too, although it's with my Doctorate.

I just want some sort of job that will help me pay for at least part of my doctorate while I'm getting it (not a GA position).

I mean I want to make teaching my career but I can't stay in school forever, so teaching middle or high school for a while so that I can get an MFA, start "real life", and work towards eventually teaching college one day is pretty much the best plan for me.

Plus it'll be nice to do something else besides attend class. I'm ready for a real job.

[epchick]

Originally Posted by Alumiyum

Okkkkk...can you tell me why it is dismal to teach? I'm pretty pumped for it.

I never said anything about teaching being dismal. You might want to re-read my post.


You said you "shudder" to think about your prospects for jobs w/o the teaching program. I said you might want to shudder thinking about your prospects WITH the teaching certification. It's not easy getting a teaching job, even if you are willing to relocate.

[Alumiyum]

Originally Posted by epchick

I never said anything about teaching being dismal. You might want to re-read my post.


You said you "shudder" to think about your prospects for jobs w/o the teaching program. I said you might want to shudder thinking about your prospects WITH the teaching certification. It's not easy getting a teaching job, even if you are willing to relocate.

It's really not all that difficult, either, as long as you can go where the job is. That's probably true for a lot of careers. I'm pretty happy with my future career choice.

It's not "easy" to get a job for most people right now but it is far easier for me to get a steady job that involves my major if I teach than if I try to go into something like graphic design, for instance.

[epchick]

Originally Posted by Alumiyum

It's really not all that difficult, either, as long as you can go where the job is.

[XanexAZ]

I wouldn't really say one generation is more fucked than the other. The economy is shitty enough to effect all age groups.

[AGDee]

Originally Posted by Alumiyum

It's really not all that difficult, either, as long as you can go where the job is. That's probably true for a lot of careers. I'm pretty happy with my future career choice.

It's not "easy" to get a job for most people right now but it is far easier for me to get a steady job that involves my major if I teach than if I try to go into something like graphic design, for instance.

I think you'll find that the economy is affecting teaching significantly right now in almost every area. Some teachers are still ok, specifically special ed, math and science teachers and can find jobs. However, in most areas, there have been a lot of teacher layoffs and there are few places that are hiring. I've heard this from teachers all over the country. It's possible that somewhere like Alaska may still need teachers simply because the economy has not tanked as much there (rich state to begin with) and there are fewer women there (and teaching is still a female dominated profession). I realize Michigan is not a good measure because we are in worse shape than most states, but I have been hearing this from existing teachers and new grads all over the place.

[Alumiyum]

Originally Posted by AGDee

I think you'll find that the economy is affecting teaching significantly right now in almost every area. Some teachers are still ok, specifically special ed, math and science teachers and can find jobs. However, in most areas, there have been a lot of teacher layoffs and there are few places that are hiring. I've heard this from teachers all over the country. It's possible that somewhere like Alaska may still need teachers simply because the economy has not tanked as much there (rich state to begin with) and there are fewer women there (and teaching is still a female dominated profession). I realize Michigan is not a good measure because we are in worse shape than most states, but I have been hearing this from existing teachers and new grads all over the place.

Maybe it just depends on where and when because out of all my friends who have already graduated from the program only one is still searching (ironically, she's a math teacher), and five of them are teaching art. I realize it's a small group of people (about 15 that graduated in the last 2 semesters) but as long as it holds up, I'll be fine. But it will be a year and a half before I have graduated, so who knows?

[Alumiyum]

Originally Posted by epchick

Little Missss Little Missss can't be wrong. (I wish I knew how to do little song notes.)

If I want to be Positive Polly instead of Negative Nancy, what's the big deal? No point in being all depressing before the job search has even begun.

[knight_shadow]

Originally Posted by Alumiyum

Little Missss Little Missss can't be wrong. (I wish I knew how to do little song notes.)

If I want to be Positive Polly instead of Negative Nancy, what's the big deal? No point in being all depressing before the job search has even begun.

She wasn't trying to bring you down. She was telling you a different side of the story.

Y'all need to lighten up. Sheesh.

[Senusret I]

Originally Posted by Alumiyum

Maybe it just depends on where and when because out of all my friends who have already graduated from the program only one is still searching (ironically, she's a math teacher), and five of them are teaching art. I realize it's a small group of people (about 15 that graduated in the last 2 semesters) but as long as it holds up, I'll be fine. But it will be a year and a half before I have graduated, so who knows?

Most of my friend who wanted to become teachers became teachers also. None have been subject to layoffs. All depends on where you're willing to go. The way I see it is if you're willing to go with the program of whatever the Superintendent or Chancellor is talking about, you've got a paycheck and job security.

I think you have the right attitude about it.

[KSUViolet06]

As far as teachng goes around here, you can still find an in-state job pretty easily if you are special ed, math or science. This is particuarly so with special ed. Your job is MUCH more secure if you're in these areas (you're the last people the district wants to lay off).

Now if you are music, foreign language, English, or history, you're going to have a hard time finding something in-state.

My point is that every state is in a different situation and being open to relocation helps a lot.