Gen Y: Educated and Jobless

[Alumiyum]

Originally Posted by epchick

I never said anything about teaching being dismal. You might want to re-read my post.


You said you "shudder" to think about your prospects for jobs w/o the teaching program. I said you might want to shudder thinking about your prospects WITH the teaching certification. It's not easy getting a teaching job, even if you are willing to relocate.

It's really not all that difficult, either, as long as you can go where the job is. That's probably true for a lot of careers. I'm pretty happy with my future career choice.

It's not "easy" to get a job for most people right now but it is far easier for me to get a steady job that involves my major if I teach than if I try to go into something like graphic design, for instance.

[epchick]

Originally Posted by Alumiyum

It's really not all that difficult, either, as long as you can go where the job is.

[Alumiyum]

Originally Posted by epchick

Little Missss Little Missss can't be wrong. (I wish I knew how to do little song notes.)

If I want to be Positive Polly instead of Negative Nancy, what's the big deal? No point in being all depressing before the job search has even begun.

[knight_shadow]

Originally Posted by Alumiyum

Little Missss Little Missss can't be wrong. (I wish I knew how to do little song notes.)

If I want to be Positive Polly instead of Negative Nancy, what's the big deal? No point in being all depressing before the job search has even begun.

She wasn't trying to bring you down. She was telling you a different side of the story.

Y'all need to lighten up. Sheesh.

[AGDee]

Originally Posted by Alumiyum

It's really not all that difficult, either, as long as you can go where the job is. That's probably true for a lot of careers. I'm pretty happy with my future career choice.

It's not "easy" to get a job for most people right now but it is far easier for me to get a steady job that involves my major if I teach than if I try to go into something like graphic design, for instance.

I think you'll find that the economy is affecting teaching significantly right now in almost every area. Some teachers are still ok, specifically special ed, math and science teachers and can find jobs. However, in most areas, there have been a lot of teacher layoffs and there are few places that are hiring. I've heard this from teachers all over the country. It's possible that somewhere like Alaska may still need teachers simply because the economy has not tanked as much there (rich state to begin with) and there are fewer women there (and teaching is still a female dominated profession). I realize Michigan is not a good measure because we are in worse shape than most states, but I have been hearing this from existing teachers and new grads all over the place.

[Alumiyum]

Originally Posted by AGDee

I think you'll find that the economy is affecting teaching significantly right now in almost every area. Some teachers are still ok, specifically special ed, math and science teachers and can find jobs. However, in most areas, there have been a lot of teacher layoffs and there are few places that are hiring. I've heard this from teachers all over the country. It's possible that somewhere like Alaska may still need teachers simply because the economy has not tanked as much there (rich state to begin with) and there are fewer women there (and teaching is still a female dominated profession). I realize Michigan is not a good measure because we are in worse shape than most states, but I have been hearing this from existing teachers and new grads all over the place.

Maybe it just depends on where and when because out of all my friends who have already graduated from the program only one is still searching (ironically, she's a math teacher), and five of them are teaching art. I realize it's a small group of people (about 15 that graduated in the last 2 semesters) but as long as it holds up, I'll be fine. But it will be a year and a half before I have graduated, so who knows?

[Senusret I]

Originally Posted by Alumiyum

Maybe it just depends on where and when because out of all my friends who have already graduated from the program only one is still searching (ironically, she's a math teacher), and five of them are teaching art. I realize it's a small group of people (about 15 that graduated in the last 2 semesters) but as long as it holds up, I'll be fine. But it will be a year and a half before I have graduated, so who knows?

Most of my friend who wanted to become teachers became teachers also. None have been subject to layoffs. All depends on where you're willing to go. The way I see it is if you're willing to go with the program of whatever the Superintendent or Chancellor is talking about, you've got a paycheck and job security.

I think you have the right attitude about it.

[lovespink88]

Originally Posted by Alumiyum

It's really not all that difficult, either, as long as you can go where the job is. That's probably true for a lot of careers. I'm pretty happy with my future career choice.

My two cents on teaching (I'm not an expert, but know a lot as it is my fiance's desired profession):

Co-sign with Dee, I've heard it's hard for teachers everywhere. Fiance graduated with a history & secondary education degree. I'm not sure of the amount of applications he's done but it's been a lot. Anyways, he only had one interview, but he did not get an offer there.

He's applied to jobs in state and out of state, as far as Louisiana. We were both willing and able to relocate if he got a teaching job in another state, but even then, he still couldn't find anything. So I'd stay it's still difficult even though we were willing to go where there were jobs.

Also, in his major (specifically history & secondary ed., not just one or the other) there were 40 graduates this year. Last thing I heard from him was that 3 of those 40 had teaching jobs and 2 were out of the country.

I'm very thankful that he was able to find a job in education (although not at a high school) that can offer him almost full time hours and fairly good pay. And because it's only 30 hours per week he still has time to take classes to get his science endorsements, which he will be done with by next spring.

[Alumiyum]

Originally Posted by KSUViolet06

As far as teachng goes around here, you can still find an in-state job pretty easily if you are special ed, math or science. This is particuarly so with special ed. Your job is MUCH more secure if you're in these areas (you're the last people the district wants to lay off).

Now if you are music, foreign language, English, or history, you're going to have a hard time finding something in-state.

My point is that every state is in a different situation and being open to relocation helps a lot.

Yeah I'm up for going wherever the job is, no matter how far. I figure I might as well before I get married and have strong ties to the community. It's a good time to expand my horizons...well in a year and a half.

Originally Posted by Senusret I

Most of my friend who wanted to become teachers became teachers also. None have been subject to layoffs. All depends on where you're willing to go. The way I see it is if you're willing to go with the program of whatever the Superintendent or Chancellor is talking about, you've got a paycheck and job security.

I think you have the right attitude about it.

That's been the experience of my friends, too, so I don't see any point in assuming I can't get a job.

Originally Posted by lovespink88

My two cents on teaching (I'm not an expert, but know a lot as it is my fiance's desired profession):

Co-sign with Dee, I've heard it's hard for teachers everywhere. Fiance graduated with a history & secondary education degree. I'm not sure of the amount of applications he's done but it's been a lot. Anyways, he only had one interview, but he did not get an offer there.

He's applied to jobs in state and out of state, as far as Louisiana. We were both willing and able to relocate if he got a teaching job in another state, but even then, he still couldn't find anything. So I'd stay it's still difficult even though we were willing to go where there were jobs.

Also, in his major (specifically history & secondary ed., not just one or the other) there were 40 graduates this year. Last thing I heard from him was that 3 of those 40 had teaching jobs and 2 were out of the country.

I'm very thankful that he was able to find a job in education (although not at a high school) that can offer him almost full time hours and fairly good pay. And because it's only 30 hours per week he still has time to take classes to get his science endorsements, which he will be done with by next spring.

That's not been the experience my friends had...I don't personally know that many people who have graduated this year (from the same program I will be attending) but I do know around 15 of them and I know at least 10 are employed as middle or high school teachers currently, and only one of those had to go somewhere farther than a state away. Of course I don't know how many schools they applied to, but hey, they're working. A few other friends from high school were hired as teachers last year at various locations, some out of state and some in. There is only one math and one special ed teacher out of that bunch. I know one is not employed as a teacher, but she told me she wasn't looking any farther than 30 minutes from where she and her husband live because he badly wants to keep the job he currently has. It must just depend on the situation.

[christiangirl]

This thread reminds me of a few years ago when I asked my cousin why she wanted to be a nurse all of a sudden. She said, "It's guaranteed job security and they're always hiring."

Fastforward to 2010.....

[PiKA2001]

Originally Posted by christiangirl

This thread reminds me of a few years ago when I asked my cousin why she wanted to be a nurse all of a sudden. She said, "It's guaranteed job security and they're always hiring."

Fastforward to 2010.....

AFAIK it's still that way in a lot of areas.