Please help the Jobless workers

[Drolefille]

Preach Irish. I've been saved by my school loans and internships thus far, but I'm running into the same issues with people not wanting to hire me because I'll have my MA soon. I have one second interview Friday and I'm hoping it works out because I'm desperate and broke and don't qualify for unemployment.

[DrPhil]

If people are applying for jobs that they know they are overqualified for, they need to submit a resume` that does not reflect their overqualification. They need to essentially "play the part" and not speak or behave (I'm not talking about "dumbing down") in an overqualified manner. Wendy's will not hire someone with a PhD regardless of how broke and desperate that person is.

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

If people are applying for jobs that they know they are overqualified for, they need to submit a resume` that does not reflect their overqualification. They need to essentially "play the part" and not speak or behave (I'm not talking about "dumbing down") in an overqualified manner. Wendy's will not hire someone with a PhD regardless of how broke and desperate that person is.

True enough, but then I have a blank resume/application since all of my most recent work has been internships either at my grad school or for my program. Omitting my work on my Master's means omitting my job history for the past 3 years. I've never acted as if I'm too good for a job.

[knight_shadow]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

If people are applying for jobs that they know they are overqualified for, they need to submit a resume` that does not reflect their overqualification. They need to essentially "play the part" and not speak or behave (I'm not talking about "dumbing down") in an overqualified manner. Wendy's will not hire someone with a PhD regardless of how broke and desperate that person is.

What about folks who only have "high level" experience? Had I taken off all of my "overqualified" jobs when I was searching for a job, I would have been left with one job on my resume -- from 7 years ago.

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by knight_shadow

What about folks who only have "high level" experience? Had I taken off all of my "overqualified" jobs when I was searching for a job, I would have been left with one job on my resume -- from 7 years ago.

Not to mention submitting a resume itself can be viewed as "overqualified."

Blah.

[DrPhil]

I know I am not the only person familiar with having more than one c.v. or resume'. The point of a resume' is to highlight your strengths. If you are a professor who also has extensive experience in ballet and singing, guess what you will do? You will put the professoral experiences and training on your c.v. that you send to academic jobs and not include the ballet and singing. You will do the opposite when you send your resume' for dance and music positions.

If the job doesn't require a resume' then don't submit a resume'. Anyhow, folks can figure out the rest and apply my post however they see fit. Many graduate students, people with advanced degrees, and people with advanced experience have made that work for them when nothing else seemed to work and unemployment checks were no longer an option. How else would many starving grad students and beginners in certain fields end up as bartenders and waitresses as they put themselves through school and repay their loans?

[knight_shadow]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

I know I am not the only person familiar with having more than one c.v. or resume'. The point of a resume' is to highlight your strengths. If you are a professor who also has extensive experience in ballet and singing, guess what you will do? You will put the professoral experiences and training on your c.v. that you send to academic jobs and not include the ballet and singing. You will do the opposite when you send your resume' for dance and music positions.

If the job doesn't require a resume' then don't submit a resume'. Anyhow, folks can figure out the rest and apply my post however they see fit. Many graduate students, people with advanced degrees, and people with advanced experience have made that work for them when nothing else seemed to work and unemployment checks were no longer an option. How else would many starving grad students and beginners in certain fields end up as bartenders and waitresses as they put themselves through school and repay their loans?

I had several different resumes. My main 2 were bank/financial-focused and marketing-focused (that's where the bulk of my experience lies). Of course, when I was applying to a banking or marketing job, I'd use the appropriate resume.

If I'm applying at Target, though, even though they might not require a resume, previous work history is still needed. Once I take off the irrelevant positions, I'm left with one retail job from 2003. Adding the rest of my experience automatically puts me into the "overqualified" pool.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by knight_shadow

I had several different resumes. My main 2 were bank/financial-focused and marketing-focused (that's where the bulk of my experience lies). Of course, when I was applying to a banking or marketing job, I'd use the appropriate resume.

Good.

Originally Posted by knight_shadow

If I'm applying at Target, though, even though they might not require a resume, previous work history is still needed. Once I take off the irrelevant positions, I'm left with one retail job from 2003. Adding the rest of my experience automatically puts me into the "overqualified" pool.

Then that will shape which jobs you wish to apply for. Also, people with extensive experience can look into contracting and seeking opportunities to train others in what they do. For instance, if you (general) have extensive mental health experience and certifications, there are mental health companies and universities that will pay you to do a training session, handbook, or help you get in touch with agencies that can use your assistance. If you have a little money to invest and know of a decent business card place to make some nice but inexpensive business cards, get yourself one and see where that opportunity leads.

These suggestions apply to whomever they apply to and people can either try them (or have tried them) or not.

[IrishLake]

Originally Posted by knight_shadow

I had several different resumes. My main 2 were bank/financial-focused and marketing-focused (that's where the bulk of my experience lies). Of course, when I was applying to a banking or marketing job, I'd use the appropriate resume.

If I'm applying at Target, though, even though they might not require a resume, previous work history is still needed. Once I take off the irrelevant positions, I'm left with one retail job from 2003. Adding the rest of my experience automatically puts me into the "overqualified" pool.

And this is exactly what I'm referring to. Of course you don't submit a resume when applying at Target or to be a bartender at Applebee's. I do have a generic resume that focuses more on my strengths and generic qualifications, but I still list related and non-related work experience, and I only list dates, job title and company. No details. I'm still over qualified for an entry level marketing position with a local company, or so I've been told. It's been tough, but I keep on keepin' on.

[PiKA2001]

Originally Posted by knight_shadow

I had several different resumes. My main 2 were bank/financial-focused and marketing-focused (that's where the bulk of my experience lies). Of course, when I was applying to a banking or marketing job, I'd use the appropriate resume.

I've never used the same resume twice. I don't fabricate anything but I tailor it to whatever Company or job I'm applying for to make it POP!

[phitheta376]

Well first of all, just who was it that passed the pay-go legislation in the first place? I hate to burst your bubbles, but this legislation costs $34 million dollars, and that $34 billion will come straight from China.

I also want to point out this little gem from BO when he was passing that legislation: ""Congress can only spend a dollar if it saves a dollar elsewhere." Then, upon passage of a previous jobless benefits extension, Obama had this to say: "It is fully paid for, and therefore is fiscally responsible.""

Wouldn't that mean, then, that since this legislation is not "fully paid for," that it is not "fiscally responsible"?

Democrats are only doing this to score cheap political points - at some point, benefits have to end.

[ThetaDancer]

Originally Posted by phitheta376

Well first of all, just who was it that passed the pay-go legislation in the first place? I hate to burst your bubbles, but this legislation costs $34 million dollars, and that $34 billion will come straight from China.

I also want to point out this little gem from BO when he was passing that legislation: ""Congress can only spend a dollar if it saves a dollar elsewhere." Then, upon passage of a previous jobless benefits extension, Obama had this to say: "It is fully paid for, and therefore is fiscally responsible.""

Wouldn't that mean, then, that since this legislation is not "fully paid for," that it is not "fiscally responsible"?

Democrats are only doing this to score cheap political points - at some point, benefits have to end.

This is so poorly constructed that it's hard for me to understand the point you're trying to make.

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2.) How to use quotation marks

[Animate]

Originally Posted by phitheta376

at some point, benefits have to end.

I agree with this 100%. I understand that a good number of these people actually need help but if we keep passing out checks then something else is going to suffer and then money has to be moved from something else that will suffer and the vicious cycle will continue.