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04-12-2010, 11:23 AM
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I am very much interested in this topic and am ALWAYS saddened when I see much of what has been said from both sides of the fence. It seems to be more than a bit absurd to hear sweethearts of any org speaking negatively about sororities; however, the reverse is more common.
It is truly ironic to see ladies in sororities bash sweethearts given the HISTORICAL connections between the two groups going back, for some, to the VERY BEGINNING. It is silly that women who would bash the decision to become a sweetheart then spit the names of women who DID see value in the choice of becoming a part of that group. Odd, don't you think? Those ladies who chose to do both are no less outstanding women of dignity and grace. Unfortunately, information gets lost because some founders and historical figures are better known than others and the history becomes myth, myth becomes whisper, and the whispers eventually disappear. We then have PERSONAL disagreements between individuals that turn into a lack of perspective and historical understanding. Sweethearts who attempt to belittle the joining of sororities are just as ridiculous. That need not be elaborated on. BOTH groups should be ashamed for such behavior.
There is a reason why many sororities have sweetheart songs and references- it is because they have had these connections for decades. Sweethearts were ladies of honor and respect, worthy of becoming the wives and girlfriends of their fraternity counterparts. They were not groupies. Many DID join a sorority afterward and some ladies in sororities found it to be a good way to see just how hard the young lady would work for their own chapters, IF they were so fortunate as to be chosen.
Sadly, many of these standards have changed, but ladies, haven't they for EVERY organization? I hear stories all the time of some young lady in a BGLO disrespecting herself with a fraternity member. Just last month, I was informed that someone saw a stripper that had on DST letters in a club and I almost choked. It's despicable and embarrassing. Although I have my loyalties, it is frustrating to see ladies of ANY sorority participating in less than respectable behavior. It makes the organizations and their members look bad.
Let's face it- there are both sweethearts AND ladies in sororities who are participating in unacceptable behavior. PLENTY of them. That said, there are JUST as many ladies who are upstanding, respectable individuals from both. It is time that we stop looking down on each other and, for those who are both, to take pride in it. As long as you are a woman with the proper values, attitude, and work ethic, there is no reason for sweethearts to shun sorority women, or vice versa. If you are lady of good character and proper morals, THAT is what should matter. Let's stop giving folk a hard time if, but-for that one organization, they are superb candidates...from both ends...
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04-12-2010, 11:47 AM
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...and it's strange that someone would say that aux orgs do not exist because they are banned. Although I am long out of undergrad, it is clear that they do from those younger folk who talk about them. The fact that they are not acknowledged is poor logic if you had a process because that too is banned. Such a statement would suggest that one's process did not exist either. Or maybe it didn't. It's 2010, after all. Can't we all just get along?! :-)
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04-12-2010, 12:51 PM
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...and it's strange that someone would say that aux orgs do not exist because they are banned. Although I am long out of undergrad, it is clear that they do from those younger folk who talk about them. The fact that they are not acknowledged is poor logic if you had a process because that too is banned. Such a statement would suggest that one's process did not exist either. Or maybe it didn't. It's 2010, after all. Can't we all just get along?! :-)
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04-12-2010, 03:36 PM
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LOL. I was wondering if that post was worth reading.... I guess now
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04-12-2010, 02:02 PM
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...and it's strange that someone would say that aux orgs do not exist because they are banned. Although I am long out of undergrad, it is clear that they do from those younger folk who talk about them. The fact that they are not acknowledged is poor logic if you had a process because that too is banned. Such a statement would suggest that one's process did not exist either. Or maybe it didn't. It's 2010, after all. Can't we all just get along?! :-)
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Let me start by saying I WAS an Omega Pearl. And yes when I attended undergrad, sweethearts were not groupies and if fact many did become members of the D4.
But it is obvious from your response, that you are way out of the loop with today's collegiate scene. All of the frats, except for Iota have banned collegiate auxs. And there are reasons for it. Many of these groups attempt to get around it by forming their own infrastructure and claiming autonomy from the frat. But come on, do you really believe that Kappa Diamonds, or Sigma Doves exist solely for their own benefit?
Lastly, your sentence about banned processes makes no sense to me. Perhaps you can expound.
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04-12-2010, 02:09 PM
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Let me start by saying I WAS an Omega Pearl. And yes when I attended undergrad, sweethearts were not groupies and in fact many did become members of the D4.
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Yeah.
But, there are still BGLOers from the 1950s-1960s who had negative perceptions of male and female sweethearts and advised their family members to never become one for a number of reasons. I guess that's another campus-by-campus variation.
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04-12-2010, 11:51 AM
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...however, the reverse is more common.
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LOL.
Word to the wise: There are many things that aren't important unless you insist on making it important.
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Originally Posted by ladyFYI
It is truly ironic to see ladies in sororities bash sweethearts given the HISTORICAL connections between the two groups going back, for some, to the VERY BEGINNING.
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LOL.
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