kappa sigma at fgcu?

[CougarGrad]

Originally Posted by KSigAdvisor

Vote us down?? What world did you wake up in this morning??! Students get to decide what other students can and can't do???! Other groups can "vote us down" because they don't want us on campus?

I'm confused. If you're an advisor- which I'm not doubting that you are- how can you not know how the Greek expansion process works?

I can show up at TCU and recruit all kinds of young ladies to join the new "chapter" of Alpha Phi. We can have "recruitment," and events, and mixers, and initiations, and everything.

...and if we're not recognized as a chapter by the Panhellenic council, OR the university, we won't be recognized by our Executive Office, either.

If this chapter of Kappa Sigma isn't officially recognized at FGCU, can it be officially recognized by your HQ?

[knight_shadow]

Originally Posted by KSigAdvisor

The point here is that we should all be on the same team, fraternities and sororities alike, in our fight for open expansion. Supporting FGCU's attempts to keep us off campus is supporting another university's attempts to keep your groups off campus elsewhere. And here is my guarantee, if a public university is ever trying to keep your group off campus (for non-disciplinary reasons, of course) if you call up Kappa Sigma (the #1 fraternity in amount of pledges nationally five years running) we will be the first ones to support you. And I promise, regardless of the ad hominem attacks by 33Girl and by myself and others, you will be treated with complete respect.

A lot of us do support open expansion. We're called the member fraternities of NIC.

And also -- why the hell would my organization (or any other GLO) need Kappa Sigma's blessing in order to expand? Really? What could KS do?

[SWTXBelle]

Originally Posted by KSigAdvisor

my unprofessional name calling and shot taking isn't helping much either. True - so why do you keep doing it?

The point here is that we should all be on the same team, fraternities and sororities alike, in our fight for open expansion. Really? Do you think with comments like this:
Lastly, before I forget, I don't expect any of the sorority members on here to really understand this argument. Your views are skewed by the fact that you have voluntarily created an unnecessary organization that you named Panhellenic, which you give the authority to provide strict oversight of your groups. Believe it or not, you could actually operate without it.

any sorority member is going to be impressed by you? Why can't we understand your argument? Are our little feminine brains too small to handle logic and legalese? Really? Here's an eye-opener for you - we can understand a valid argument! Some of us actually get college educations, and work in academic and professional fields! I teach logic to college students, and we discuss all sorts of things which are outside my/our personal experience.
NPC does an admirable job of handling expansion - it works for us. We like the system - it's not a case of whether or not we could operate without it - it's a case of not feeling the need to fix what isn't broken. Fraternities have a much higher rate of chapters closing and/or not even making it past the colony stage than sororities as a result of their more open-expansion policies.It's a price fraternities seem willing to pay - but that doesn't mean our system is "unnecessary".

Honest to goodness, for the sake of the undoubtedly good guys who are in the colony, please stop being argumentative and combative - you are not helping the cause. If you can't present your argument without being insulting maybe it's time to step away from the keyboard.

eta - IBTL

[33girl]

Dude, just call up Julian Bond, Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson and they will be so on the side of their poor oppressed brothers. (Everyone stop a minute and think about normally cool and composed JB saying "WHAT is this honky talking about??")

[UofM-TKE]

Originally Posted by SWTXBelle

eta - IBTL